ZCSTIN05@UDCVM.BITNET (Todd Coram) (09/24/86)
So GNUEMACS is too massive for the ST... Is there a REALLY decent editor out there for the ST that an EMACS addict can live with? Micro-Emacs is nice and powerful, but it ain't EMACS. (Actually, the only real EMACS is the original one written in TECO. GNUEMACS is considered an EMACS-like editor.) For lack of a better CLI, I need an editor that I can live in. It should be able to do more than just compile a program or spawn a CLI, it should be able to perform directory editing (DIRED), real macros and simple file filtering. Yes, I know..I am power mad..I want to much, overkill, etc.. but hey, I can't live in the windowing world of GEM anymore. I spend most of my time editing, and unless I can fire up a small editor whenever and wherever I want in an application (without reloading the file each time). Any interest in implementing TECO on an ST? Is this a sick idea? maroC ddoTTodd Coram
turner@imagen.UUCP (D'arc Angel) (09/25/86)
> For lack of a better CLI, I need an editor that I can live in. It should > be able to do more than just compile a program or spawn a CLI, it should > be able to perform directory editing (DIRED), real macros and simple > file filtering. Yes, I know..I am power mad..I want to much, overkill, etc.. > but hey, I can't live in the windowing world of GEM anymore. I spend most > of my time editing, and unless I can fire up a small editor whenever and > wherever I want in an application (without reloading the file each time). > > Any interest in implementing TECO on an ST? Is this a sick idea? > > maroC ddoTTodd Coram using TECO is a sick idea (:-) seriously i don't think that you are power mad and all of your requests are very reasonable just harder than blazes to implement, consider for example that redirection of i/o (dup) doesn't work with code generated by some compilers and does work with others, and to do most of what you want (which again i feel is reasonable) you need MocLisp ...... give me a solution and i'll implement it -- ---- It aint life that gets me down, it's gravity Name: James M. Turner Mail: Imagen Corp. 2650 San Tomas Expressway, P.O. Box 58101 Santa Clara, CA 95052-8101 AT&T: (408) 986-9400 UUCP: ...{decvax,ucbvax}!decwrl!imagen!turner CompuServe: 76327,1575 GEnie : D-ARCANGEL
phr@ernie.Berkeley.EDU (Paul Rubin) (09/26/86)
In article <8609241321.AA07588@jade.Berkeley.Edu> ZCSTIN05@UDCVM.BITNET (Todd Coram) writes: >So GNUEMACS is too massive for the ST... Is there a REALLY decent editor >out there for the ST that an EMACS addict can live with? >Micro-Emacs is nice and powerful, but it ain't EMACS. (Actually, the only >real EMACS is the original one written in TECO. GNUEMACS is considered an >EMACS-like editor.) No, according to the GNU Emacs Manual by Richard M. Stallman, GNU Emacs is the Unix/GNU incarnation of the advanced, self-documenting, customizable, extensible real-time display editor Emacs. It is a "real" Emacs, as opposed to nonextensible editors with Emacs-like command bindings ("ersatz emacses"). At least, that is the distinction that RMS makes, and he is the author of both GNU Emacs and the original (Teco) Emacs. >Any interest in implementing TECO on an ST? Is this a sick idea? Yes, it is a sick idea. A TECO with enough stuff to run TECO Emacs, even if such a thing is possible on an ST, would result in an Emacs almost as big as GNU Emacs. Porting GNU Emacs is probably a reasonable idea for a 2MB+ ST, as mentioned here before.