[net.micro.atari16] Volume of net traffic

moore@NCSC.ARPA (Moore) (10/15/86)

I *HAVEN'T* had enough!  While I agree that some convention should be estab-
lished so that a person could tell by the Subject field if the message contains
source or UUENCODED executable, I signed up to this news group because it does
have such a large volume of information.  Maybe people who develop software
should just place an announcement on the net, and then collect a list of those
who respond, and mail just to them.  I don't think so:  personally, I very much
enjoy getting the quality of software displayed recently by ARC, ARCSHELL,
UNITERM, and UEMACS for **Free** and without the hassle of mailing disks to
someone to get a copy.

And isn't one of the reasons the news group exists in the first place to teach
new users about the capabilities of the machine?  If so, you can surely expect
some redundancy in message topics, since new folk are added to the list con-
stantly (I imagine).

So, to all those people who have been taking the time to develop, encode, and
mail programs to the net, thank you very much.  If something comes up again and
it's decided that no source or encoded material will be allowed, please go ahead
and put my address on your own mailing list:  I want the *opportunity* to decide
whether I want a copy or not.


Jim Moore
Naval Coastal Systems Center
Panama City, FL
(moore@ncsc.arpa)

P.S.  Send any and all sparks to rick@ncsc, 'cause he don't get no mail.

olson@endor.harvard.edu (Eric Olson) (10/15/86)

I think the complaint is valid.  In the Mac world, we have long
had net.micro.mac and net.sources.mac (a misnomer:  there are
about 100 times as many binaries as sources in net.sources.mac).
So why not net.micro.atari16.sources and/or net.micro.atari16.binary?
Then the sites who don't want programs don't even have to have them
uucp'd to themselves.

I also think the original poster may have been complaining about
true garbage, i.e., a few recent uuencodes that went sour somewhere.
This should, of course, be avoided as much as possible, but we're
all only human, after all.

-Eric

jhs@MITRE-BEDFORD.ARPA (10/16/86)

I am a non-ST-owner interested in information on STs.  I have zero use for
actual code.  I have generally not saved any of the code that went whizzing
by.  I figure that when and if I buy an ST, most of what is available now will
still be available for the asking, and probably several bug-fix versions
later.

I would vote for descriptions of what programs are available and mailing of
actual source or object code only to those who care enough to ask.  That would
also solve the "source vs. object" controversy.

-John Sangster
jhs@mitre-bedford.arpa

pes@bath63.UUCP (Paul Smee) (10/30/86)

I'm not convinced that 'descriptions and mail to requesters' would actually
cut the net traffic.  At present (bar accidents) net stuff crosses the Atlantic
once (to Holland, innit?), crosses the Channel once, and so on.  A separate
trans-Atlantic posting to each requestor would pretty obviously crank the
transmitted bitcount right up.

Similar arguments, of course, apply to non-international posting.  Also,
I think that this net has a higher connectivity than 'pure user mail',
so that solution would leave lots of people out, I spect.

Better, the idea (is it reelly going to happen) of a separate meeting for
the software, so that them as don't want it can more easily miss it out.