rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) (01/01/70)
>> I refuse (with three R's) to believe that "Who's Next" >> or any album by our favorite net.star could outrank Led >> Zeppelin IV.Consequently I challenge the results of this sur- >> vey. [PALENA] > You don't believe it Larry?? What would you do if I told you that I don't > even like Led Zep IV that much?? Why is The Wall "history's stupidest > concept album?? Because it's the true story of Roger Water's life?? Maybe > you don't like depressing music but I happen to thrive on it and I think > that the Wall is an incredible album. [PAUL KIRSCH] Not to flame you, Paul (I agree with your rebuttal to Palena wholeheartedly), but although I've liked some of the music from "The Wall", I can't help but think that as a whole it is a ridiculously self-indulgent egotistical whining exercise on the part of Roger Waters. I recall reading his insistence at the time of the recording of "The Wall" that HE *was* Pink Floyd, that the band was his ideas, his vision, his music. The whole theme and content seemed symptomatic of the whiny "singer-songwriter" motif wherein the singer talks about his incredible problems in life and blames them all on the other people around him (often MOTOS's). (Reminds me a bit of the ethic in John Parr's "Naughty Naughty" video---when someone doesn't do what I want, they're at fault, and a happy ending would have them "giving in" in the end; just one example from MTV.) Didn't he go through a divorce around this time? I ask because two of the biggest "stars" of the moment, Phil Collins and Sting, bolstered their careers (and found something to write about endlessly) as a result of divorce, and seem to fit into that same category. Sting recanted "Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic" with "Every Breath You Take" (both about his ex-wife). He later claimed that "If You Love Someone Set Them Free" was his own answer to "EBYT". Yet if you think about it, he wasn't offering to "set free" the one he had been watching who belonged to him in "EBYT", he was demanding that HE be set free! Not to mention "Fortress Around Your Heart"... (OK, I won't mention it.) I digress... -- "iY AHORA, INFORMACION INTERESANTE ACERCA DE... LA LLAMA!" Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr
r032@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP ( Sam Rebelsky) (09/27/85)
Finally:
>>> The USENET top 78 album list <<<
First, the apologies/explanations:
Sorry that this took so long to get posted, but I did say that I would
post the results in the middle of September. I was delayed because the
system was down for a week and a half and I also had other work to do.
Only some of the following errors are mine. Hopefully there aren't many.
If someone didn't know the name of an album, and I didn't know it either,
then I left their comment. I think that I didn't lose anyone's list, but
if I did, I'm sorry.
Second, the rating system:
I felt that an album that more than one person included in his/her top
ten list deserved more points than one that only one person included. So,
for albums that were in an order, I gave 20 points for 1st, 19 for 2nd,
and so on. Albums that received equal ratings split their points (so
for the people that refused to order their lists, everything received
15.5 points).
Third, some explanations of what's being posted:
This posting only includes the albums that more than one person voted
for. I wasn't planning to post the albums that only got one vote, but
then I realized that people did spend effort compiling their lists, and
would like everyone to see the neat albums they included, so I will
post a separate list of albums that only received one vote. I may also
compile some sort of list of artists (probably one that doesnt' give
multiple points for someone who includes the same artist multiple times).
Finally, I'm still working on the collection of longer reviews, and will
mail it to the people who requested it when I'm finished. I will continue
to mail it to people who request it until I'm crazy or sick or bored.
The following list is in the form:
ranking) artist - album title - number of points
Without further garbage, here is the list:
1) Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon - 190.5
2) Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here - 174
3) Pink Floyd - The Wall - 149
4) Who - Who's Next - 140
5) Beatles - Abbey Road - 132
6) Bush, Kate - The Dreaming - 108.5
7) Led Zeppelin - ZoSo (Zeppelin IV) - 107.5
8) Beatles - The Beatles (The White Album) - 116.5
9) Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band - 98
10) Springsteen, Bruce - Born to Run - 88.5
11) Clash - London Calling - 85
12) Fleetwood Mac - Rumours - 77.5
13) Talking Heads - Remain in Light - 65.5
14) Pink Floyd - Animals - 65.5
15) Who - Quadrophenia - 61
16) Dire Straits - Making Movies - 61
17) Beatles - Revolver - 57.5
18) Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - 56
19) Emerson, Lake and Palmer - Brain Salad Surgery - 54.5
20) Joel, Billy - The Stranger - 53
21) Gabriel, Peter - PG4 (Security) - 52
22) Grateful Dead - Live Dead - 51
23) Steely Dan - Aja - 50.5
Grateful Dead - Europe '72 - 50.5
25) Kansas - LeftOverture - 49.5
26) Dire Straits - Love Over Gold - 49
27) Hendrix, Jimi - Electric Ladyland - 48.5
28) Jethro Tull - Aqualung - 48
Bush, Kate - Never For Ever - 48
30) Springsteen, Bruce - The Wild, the Innocent, and the E Street Shuffle - 47
31) Yes - Close to the Edge - 46
King, Carole - Tapestry - 46
Allman Brothers - Live at the Fillmore East - 46
34) Who - Tommy - 45
Credence Clearwater Revival - Willy and the Poor Boys - 45
36) Doors - The Doors - 43
37) Mannheim Steamroller - Fresh Aire III - 42
38) John, Elton - Goodbye Yellow Brick Road - 41
39) Joel, Billy - Piano Man - 40
40) Grateful Dead - American Beauty - 39
Bush, Kate - Hounds of Love - 39
42) Little Feat - Dixie Chicken - 37
43) XTC - Black Sea - 36
Supertramp - Even in the Quietest Moments - 36
45) REM - Murmur - 35.5
46) Genesis - Selling England By The Pound - 34.5
Genesis - Foxtrot - 34.5
Bowie, David - Ziggy Stardust - 34.5
49) Van Halen - Van Halen - 34
Pretenders - Learning to Crawl - 34
51) Costello, Elvis - Armed Forces - 33.5
52) Bush, Kate - The Kick Inside - 32
53) Vega, Suzanne - Suzanne Vega - 31
Smith, Patti - Horses - 31
Nyro, Laura - Eli and the Thirteenth Confession - 31
Little Feat - Waiting for Columbus - 31
Genesis - Trick of the Tail - 31
Davis, Miles - Kind of Blue - 31
59) Bush, Kate - Lionheart - 30
Derek and the Dominoes - Layla - 30
61) Supertramp - Breakfast in America - 29
Stevens, Cat - Tea for the Tillerman - 29
Ramones - Ramones - 29
Police - Synchronicity - 29
65) Springsteen, Bruce - Nebraska - 28.5
Reed, Lou - Rock 'n' Roll Animal - 28.5
67) Yes - The Yes Album - 28
Sex Pistols - Never Mind The Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols - 28
69) Yes - Fragile - 27.5
Dylan, Bob & the Band - The Basement Tapes - 27.5
71) Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick - 27
Benetar, Pat - Crimes of Passion - 27
73) Springsteen, Bruce - Born in the USA - 26.5
Rolling Stones - Hot Rocks - 26.5
Fagen, Donald - The Nightfly - 26.5
76) Prince - 1999 - 26
Gabriel, Peter - Peter Gabriel (1st Solo) - 26
78) Simon and Garfunkel - Greatest Hits - 25
Thanks very much to everyone who participated.
--
Sam Rebelsky
UUCP : ..!ihnp4!gargoyle!sphinx!r032 or ..!ihnp4!gargoyle!samr
ARPA : x9.xsr%uchicago.mailnet@mit-multics.arpa
BITNET: r032%sphinx@Uchicago.bitnet
Random Thought: Wouldn't you like to see a movie with Toshiro Mifune and
Harvey (the invisible rabbit)?strock@fortune.UUCP (Gregory Strockbine) (10/01/85)
> >>> The USENET top 78 album list <<< > > >1) Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon - 190.5 >2) Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here - 174 >3) Pink Floyd - The Wall - 149 >4) Who - Who's Next - 140 >5) Beatles - Abbey Road - 132 >6) Bush, Kate - The Dreaming - 108.5 >7) Led Zeppelin - ZoSo (Zeppelin IV) - 107.5 >8) Beatles - The Beatles (The White Album) - 116.5 >9) Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band - 98 >10) Springsteen, Bruce - Born to Run - 88.5 > &etc Thanks for the list of oldies (basically) top records, now how about today's music. Gee, it looks as if a 70's revival is upon us.
chris@laidbak.UUCP (Chris Granner) (10/02/85)
In article <5602@fortune.UUCP> strock@fortune.UUCP (Gregory Strockbine) writes: > Thanks for the list of oldies (basically) top records, now how >about today's music. Gee, it looks as if a 70's revival is upon us. hi- All of the top ten albums of that survey have been around long enough to accumulate a "universal" appeal...Your request is somehow analogous to saying that SysVRel2 is the "standard UNIX." (that is to say, it may be some day, but not this week.) -cg ( ...!ihnp4!laidbak!chris ) "I bless Ra, the fierce Sun burning bright I bless Isis, Luna in the night I bless the Air, the Horus hawk I bless the Ground on which I walk" hail eris all hail discordia
lip@masscomp.UUCP (John Lipinski) (10/02/85)
In article <5602@fortune.UUCP> strock@fortune.UUCP (Gregory Strockbine) writes: >> >>> The USENET top 78 album list <<< >> >> >>1) Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon - 190.5 >>2) Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here - 174 >>3) Pink Floyd - The Wall - 149 >>4) Who - Who's Next - 140 >>5) Beatles - Abbey Road - 132 >>6) Bush, Kate - The Dreaming - 108.5 >>7) Led Zeppelin - ZoSo (Zeppelin IV) - 107.5 >>8) Beatles - The Beatles (The White Album) - 116.5 >>9) Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band - 98 >>10) Springsteen, Bruce - Born to Run - 88.5 >> > Thanks for the list of oldies (basically) top records, now how >about today's music. Gee, it looks as if a 70's revival is upon us. The survey included old (60's) and recent popular music. If voters thought that more recent music was better, they would have made different choices. I think the outcome of this survey demonstrates the *general* degeneration of popular music after the early 70's. - John Lipinski
cv@linus.UUCP (Chris J. Valas) (10/04/85)
-=- In article <792@masscomp.UUCP> lip@masscomp.UUCP (John Lipinski) writes: >In article <5602@fortune.UUCP> strock@fortune.UUCP (Gregory Strockbine) writes: >>> >>> The USENET top 78 album list <<< >>> >>> >>>1) Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon - 190.5 >>>2) Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here - 174 >>>3) Pink Floyd - The Wall - 149 >>>4) Who - Who's Next - 140 >>>5) Beatles - Abbey Road - 132 >>>6) Bush, Kate - The Dreaming - 108.5 >>>7) Led Zeppelin - ZoSo (Zeppelin IV) - 107.5 >>>8) Beatles - The Beatles (The White Album) - 116.5 >>>9) Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band - 98 >>>10) Springsteen, Bruce - Born to Run - 88.5 >>> >> Thanks for the list of oldies (basically) top records, now how >>about today's music. Gee, it looks as if a 70's revival is upon us. > >The survey included old (60's) and recent popular music. If voters >thought that more recent music was better, they would have made >different choices. I think the outcome of this survey demonstrates >the *general* degeneration of popular music after the early 70's. > > - John Lipinski No, what it demonstrates is the *general* ossification of the critical faculties of 95% of the non-deaf public. - Chris Valas -=-
kirsch@sjuvax.UUCP (P. Kirsch) (10/08/85)
In article <792@masscomp.UUCP> lip@masscomp.UUCP (John Lipinski) writes: >In article <5602@fortune.UUCP> strock@fortune.UUCP (Gregory Strockbine) writes: >>> >>> The USENET top 78 album list <<< >>> >>> >>>1) Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon - 190.5 >>>2) Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here - 174 >>>3) Pink Floyd - The Wall - 149 >>>4) Who - Who's Next - 140 >>>5) Beatles - Abbey Road - 132 >>>6) Bush, Kate - The Dreaming - 108.5 >>>7) Led Zeppelin - ZoSo (Zeppelin IV) - 107.5 >>>8) Beatles - The Beatles (The White Album) - 116.5 >>>9) Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band - 98 >>>10) Springsteen, Bruce - Born to Run - 88.5 >>> >> Thanks for the list of oldies (basically) top records, now how >>about today's music. Gee, it looks as if a 70's revival is upon us. > >The survey included old (60's) and recent popular music. If voters >thought that more recent music was better, they would have made >different choices. I think the outcome of this survey demonstrates >the *general* degeneration of popular music after the early 70's. > > - John Lipinski Or, instead it could demonstrate once again how the general trend is for people to latch on to certain periods in music and not really want to hear anything else. I think it's unfortunate but, if radio is any monitor this seems to me a pretty good assumption.--Let's face it, when it comes to musical tastes, most people are reluctant to change. -- Another wunnerful letter from the semi-intelligent rotting brain of: Paul Kirsch St. Joseph's University Philadelphia, Pa { astrovax | allegra | bpa | burdvax } !sjuvax!kirsch I'm outside right now...do you know where your children are ? (snicker)
smithson@calma.uucp (Brian Smithson) (10/11/85)
In article <5602@fortune.UUCP> strock@fortune.UUCP (Gregory Strockbine) writes: >> >>> The USENET top 78 album list <<< ^^^^^^^^^ >> >> >>1) Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon - 190.5 >>2)... >&etc > > Thanks for the list of oldies (basically) top records, now how >about today's music. Gee, it looks as if a 70's revival is upon us. Of course they're oldies! Didn't you see the title, "top 78 album list"? 78's haven't been produced in decades! Perhaps someone will now do a "top 33-1/3 album list". :-) -- -Brian Smithson Calma Company ucbvax!calma!smithson calma!smithson@ucbvax.ARPA None of this has anything to do with General Electric or Calma Company.
jimmy@scgvaxd.UUCP (j[DJim Raisanen) (10/12/85)
In article <583@linus.UUCP> cv@linus.UUCP (Chris J. Valas) writes: >-=- > >In article <792@masscomp.UUCP> lip@masscomp.UUCP (John Lipinski) writes: >>In article <5602@fortune.UUCP> strock@fortune.UUCP (Gregory Strockbine) writes: >>>> >>> The USENET top 78 album list <<< >>>> >>>> >>>>1) Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon - 190.5 >>>>2) Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here - 174 >>>>3) Pink Floyd - The Wall - 149 >>>>4) Who - Who's Next - 140 >>>>5) Beatles - Abbey Road - 132 >>>>6) Bush, Kate - The Dreaming - 108.5 >>>>7) Led Zeppelin - ZoSo (Zeppelin IV) - 107.5 >>>>8) Beatles - The Beatles (The White Album) - 116.5 >>>>9) Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band - 98 >>>>10) Springsteen, Bruce - Born to Run - 88.5 >>>> >>> Thanks for the list of oldies (basically) top records, now how >>>about today's music. Gee, it looks as if a 70's revival is upon us. >> >>The survey included old (60's) and recent popular music. If voters >>thought that more recent music was better, they would have made >>different choices. I think the outcome of this survey demonstrates >>the *general* degeneration of popular music after the early 70's. >> >> - John Lipinski > >No, what it demonstrates is the *general* ossification of the critical >faculties of 95% of the non-deaf public. > > - Chris Valas >-=- What does this last statement mean???????????? - Jim Raisanen
lp102911@sjuvax.UUCP (palena) (10/17/85)
>>>>> >>> The USENET top 78 album list <<< >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>1) Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon - 190.5 >>>>>2) Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here - 174 >>>>>3) Pink Floyd - The Wall - 149 >>>>>4) Who - Who's Next - 140 >>>>>5) Beatles - Abbey Road - 132 >>>>>6) Bush, Kate - The Dreaming - 108.5 >>>>>7) Led Zeppelin - ZoSo (Zeppelin IV) - 107.5 >>>>>8) Beatles - The Beatles (The White Album) - 116.5 >>>>>9) Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band - 98 >>>>>10) Springsteen, Bruce - Born to Run - 88.5 >>>>> I refuse (with three R's) to believe that "Who's Next" or any album by our favorite net.star could outrank Led Zeppelin IV.Consequently I challenge the results of this sur- vey.My own personal theory is that everybody's favorite net- poster at mit-eddie went around bribing people at his school to use their accounts to vote.This would nicely explain why 4 of the top 6 albums are from Pink Floyd and you-know-who. I CAN'T believe that The Wall,history's stupidest concept album, could beat Led Zep IV by 30 votes!!! All of you voters better rem- ember this next time you whistle along with "Stairway to Heaven" or stomp your feet to "Misty Mountain Hop".You've dealt that album an injustice!!! P.S. Don't dare,dare,dare!!!! flame me on this article Just another rather irrate contribution to net.KateBush, Larry Palena { astrovax | allegra | bpa | burdvax } !sjuvax!lp102911
kirsch@sjuvax.UUCP (P. Kirsch) (10/19/85)
In article <2406@sjuvax.UUCP> lp102911@sjuvax.UUCP (Larry Palena) (But don't bother!!) writes: >>>>>> >>> The USENET top 78 album list <<< >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>1) Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon - 190.5 >>>>>>2) Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here - 174 >>>>>>3) Pink Floyd - The Wall - 149 >>>>>>4) Who - Who's Next - 140 >>>>>>5) Beatles - Abbey Road - 132 >>>>>>6) Bush, Kate - The Dreaming - 108.5 >>>>>>7) Led Zeppelin - ZoSo (Zeppelin IV) - 107.5 >>>>>>8) Beatles - The Beatles (The White Album) - 116.5 >>>>>>9) Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band - 98 >>>>>>10) Springsteen, Bruce - Born to Run - 88.5 >>>>>> > > I refuse (with three R's) to believe that "Who's Next" > or any album by our favorite net.star could outrank Led > Zeppelin IV.Consequently I challenge the results of this sur- > vey.My own personal theory is that everybody's favorite net- > poster at mit-eddie went around bribing people at his school > to use their accounts to vote.This would nicely explain why > 4 of the top 6 albums are from Pink Floyd and you-know-who. > I CAN'T believe that The Wall,history's stupidest concept album, > could beat Led Zep IV by 30 votes!!! All of you voters better rem- > ember this next time you whistle along with "Stairway to Heaven" > or stomp your feet to "Misty Mountain Hop".You've dealt that album > an injustice!!! > > > P.S. Don't dare,dare,dare!!!! flame me on this article > > > Larry Palena > You don't believe it Larry?? What would you do if I told you that I don't even like Led Zep IV that much?? Why is The Wall "history's stupidest concept album?? Because it's the true story of Roger Water's life?? Maybe you don't like depressing music but I happen to thrive on it and I think that the Wall is an incredible album. Possibly three Pink Floyd albums made it because they are a highly technical group/ good late night music and I would think a lot of people involved with Computers would be late night people. (Don't flame me on this last statement--it's just a passing thought) -- Another wunnerful letter from the semi-intelligent rotting brain of: Paul Kirsch St. Joseph's University Philadelphia, Pa { astrovax | allegra | bpa | burdvax } !sjuvax!kirsch Warning: Objects in Terminal Room are Closer than they Appear...
lp102911@sjuvax.UUCP (palena) (10/22/85)
In article <2416@sjuvax.UUCP> kirsch@sjuvax.UUCP (P. Kirsch) writes: >In article <2406@sjuvax.UUCP> lp102911@sjuvax.UUCP (Larry Palena) (But don't bother!!) writes: >>>>>>> >>> The USENET top 78 album list <<< >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>1) Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon - 190.5 >>>>>>>2) Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here - 174 >>>>>>>3) Pink Floyd - The Wall - 149 >>>>>>>4) Who - Who's Next - 140 >>>>>>>5) Beatles - Abbey Road - 132 >>>>>>>6) Bush, Kate - The Dreaming - 108.5 >>>>>>>7) Led Zeppelin - ZoSo (Zeppelin IV) - 107.5 >>>>>>>8) Beatles - The Beatles (The White Album) - 116.5 >>>>>>>9) Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band - 98 >>>>>>>10) Springsteen, Bruce - Born to Run - 88.5 >>>>>>> >> >> I refuse (with three R's) to believe that "Who's Next" >> or any album by our favorite net.star could outrank Led >> Zeppelin IV.Consequently I challenge the results of this sur- >> vey.My own personal theory is that everybody's favorite net- >> poster at mit-eddie went around bribing people at his school >> to use their accounts to vote.This would nicely explain why >> 4 of the top 6 albums are from Pink Floyd and you-know-who. >> I CAN'T believe that The Wall,history's stupidest concept album, >> could beat Led Zep IV by 30 votes!!! All of you voters better rem- >> ember this next time you whistle along with "Stairway to Heaven" >> or stomp your feet to "Misty Mountain Hop".You've dealt that album >> an injustice!!! >> >> >> P.S. Don't dare,dare,dare!!!! flame me on this article >> >> >> Larry Palena >> > >You don't believe it Larry?? What would you do if I told you that I don't >even like Led Zep IV that much?? Why is The Wall "history's stupidest >concept album?? Because it's the true story of Roger Water's life?? Maybe ...no!!!Because it sucks!!! I don't care if it's Marilyn Monroe's true life story (or even Madonna's-heh,heh).And it doesn't sur- prise me that you don't like Led Zep IV, because other people have heard of it.Your big scene is to ask net.posters about bands that nobody has ever heard about,knowing full well that you ain't gonna get no answer.I mean a guitarist who's now a Freshman at some small college in Wisconsin??!! Give us a break!!!.... >you don't like depressing music but I happen to thrive on it and I think ...oh,come on Paul.How do any of the songs on "The Wall" compare, in depression-inducing value,to "Dreams Reoccuring" or "Reoccuring Dreams"??!!Stick to the people who make their living depressing peo- ple,not the people who become depressed if Kate Bush can't come to dinner... >that the Wall is an incredible album. Possibly three Pink Floyd albums made it >because they are a highly technical group/ good late night music and I would >think a lot of people involved with Computers would be late night people. >(Don't flame me on this last statement--it's just a passing thought) > > ...well I don't know anything about biological clocks.All I know is Zep IV is about as close as you can come to a classic rock album.It's still going strong."Dark Side of the Moon" is the only album that de- served a place in the top five on that poll.The rest of the poll was a farce. >-- > > >Another wunnerful letter from the semi-intelligent rotting brain of: > > Paul Kirsch ...stabbed in the back by a schoolmate.God that sucks!!! :-) Just another wunnerful flame-inducer from, Larry Palena lp102911@sjuvax
kirsch@sjuvax.UUCP (P. Kirsch) (10/23/85)
In article <2436@sjuvax.UUCP> lp102911@sjuvax.UUCP (Larry Palena) writes: >In article <2416@sjuvax.UUCP> kirsch@sjuvax.UUCP (P. Kirsch) writes: >>In article <2406@sjuvax.UUCP> lp102911@sjuvax.UUCP (Larry Palena) (But don't bother!!) writes: >>>>>>>> >>> The USENET top 78 album list <<< >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>1) Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon - 190.5 >>>>>>>>2) Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here - 174 >>>>>>>>3) Pink Floyd - The Wall - 149 >>>>>>>>4) Who - Who's Next - 140 >>>>>>>>5) Beatles - Abbey Road - 132 >>>>>>>>6) Bush, Kate - The Dreaming - 108.5 >>>>>>>>7) Led Zeppelin - ZoSo (Zeppelin IV) - 107.5 >>>>>>>>8) Beatles - The Beatles (The White Album) - 116.5 >>>>>>>>9) Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band - 98 >>>>>>>>10) Springsteen, Bruce - Born to Run - 88.5 >>>>>>>> >>> >>> I refuse (with three R's) to believe that "Who's Next" >>> or any album by our favorite net.star could outrank Led >>> Zeppelin IV.Consequently I challenge the results of this sur- >>> vey.My own personal theory is that everybody's favorite net- >>> poster at mit-eddie went around bribing people at his school >>> to use their accounts to vote.This would nicely explain why >>> 4 of the top 6 albums are from Pink Floyd and you-know-who. >>> I CAN'T believe that The Wall,history's stupidest concept album, >>> could beat Led Zep IV by 30 votes!!! All of you voters better rem- >>> ember this next time you whistle along with "Stairway to Heaven" >>> or stomp your feet to "Misty Mountain Hop".You've dealt that album >>> an injustice!!! >>> >>> >>> P.S. Don't dare,dare,dare!!!! flame me on this article >>> >>> >>> Larry Palena >>> >> >>You don't believe it Larry?? What would you do if I told you that I don't >>even like Led Zep IV that much?? Why is The Wall "history's stupidest >>concept album?? Because it's the true story of Roger Water's life?? Maybe > > ...no!!!Because it sucks!!! I don't care if it's Marilyn Monroe's > true life story (or even Madonna's-heh,heh).And it doesn't sur- > prise me that you don't like Led Zep IV, because other people have > heard of it.Your big scene is to ask net.posters about bands that > nobody has ever heard about,knowing full well that you ain't gonna > get no answer.I mean a guitarist who's now a Freshman at some small > college in Wisconsin??!! Give us a break!!!.... You might be surprised to know Larry that every band I have ever asked about on the net I have gotten a response to.(Including:Siouxsie/Banshees, New Order, Hawkwind, Echo/Bunnymen, Joy Division etc.). I ask about these bands because it's hard to find out any info on them from any US rock mags. Just because you haven't heard of the bands doesn't mean that they don't exist--or that others don't like them. For your info Larry, I happen to own every Led Zep album BUT IV! I just don't like the album that much--my favorite album by Zep is the first one. >>you don't like depressing music but I happen to thrive on it and I think > > ...oh,come on Paul.How do any of the songs on "The Wall" compare, > in depression-inducing value,to "Dreams Reoccuring" or "Reoccuring > Dreams"??!!Stick to the people who make their living depressing peo- > ple,not the people who become depressed if Kate Bush can't come to > dinner... > I do stick to the people that make their living depressing people-- bands like the Cure, Dead Can Dance, This Mortal Coil, Pink Floyd etc. >>that the Wall is an incredible album. Possibly three Pink Floyd albums made it >>because they are a highly technical group/ good late night music and I would >>think a lot of people involved with Computers would be late night people. >>(Don't flame me on this last statement--it's just a passing thought) >> >> > ...well I don't know anything about biological clocks.All I know is > Zep IV is about as close as you can come to a classic rock album.It's > still going strong."Dark Side of the Moon" is the only album that de- > served a place in the top five on that poll.The rest of the poll was a > farce. >>-- >> >> >>Another wunnerful letter from the semi-intelligent rotting brain of: >> >> Paul Kirsch > > ...stabbed in the back by a schoolmate.God that sucks!!! > :-) > > Just another wunnerful flame-inducer > from, > > Larry Palena > lp102911@sjuvax -- Another wunnerful letter from the semi-intelligent rotting brain of: Paul Kirsch St. Joseph's University Philadelphia, Pa { astrovax | allegra | bpa | burdvax } !sjuvax!kirsch Warning: Objects in Terminal Room are Closer than they Appear...
rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) (10/23/85)
> I refuse (with three R's) to believe that "Who's Next" > or any album by our favorite net.star could outrank Led > Zeppelin IV.Consequently I challenge the results of this sur- > vey.My own personal theory is that everybody's favorite net- > poster at mit-eddie went around bribing people at his school > to use their accounts to vote. > I CAN'T believe that The Wall,history's stupidest concept album, > could beat Led Zep IV by 30 votes!!! All of you voters better rem- > ember this next time you whistle along with "Stairway to Heaven" > or stomp your feet to "Misty Mountain Hop".You've dealt that album > an injustice!!! > > P.S. Don't dare,dare,dare!!!! flame me on this article > Larry Palena How DARE we have different tastes from YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pink Floyd? Kate Bush? The Beatles? The Who? FMEH!!!!!!!! I mean, the Who are garbage compared to Led Zeppelin, I mean, who cares about a band whose drummer died of substance abuse? ... Let me rephrase that! ... ("The official report said he choked on vomit. ... ... Of course, it wasn't his own vomit... The report didn't say whose vomit it was...") -- "I was walking down the street. A man came up to me and asked me what was the capital of Bolivia. I hesitated. Three sailors jumped me. The next thing I knew I was making chicken salad." "I don't believe that for a minute. Everyone knows the capital of Bolivia is La Paz." Rich Rosen pyuxd!rlr
rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) (10/24/85)
>>> I refuse (with three R's) to believe that "Who's Next" >>> or any album by our favorite net.star could outrank Led >>> Zeppelin IV. [etc.] >>> Larry Palena >>You don't believe it Larry?? What would you do if I told you that I don't >>even like Led Zep IV that much?? Why is The Wall "history's stupidest >>concept album?? Because it's the true story of Roger Water's life?? Maybe > ...no!!!Because it sucks!!! [PALENA] Nothing like a learned scholarly opinion from a sophisticated music lover... > And it doesn't sur- > prise me that you don't like Led Zep IV, because other people have > heard of it.Your big scene is to ask net.posters about bands that > nobody has ever heard about,knowing full well that you ain't gonna > get no answer.I mean a guitarist who's now a Freshman at some small > college in Wisconsin??!! Give us a break!!!.... Obviously anything Mr. Palena doesn't know about (in his limited travels through the Led Zeppelin section of his local record store) is garbage. If "nobody" has ever heard of them, why do people respond to articles about such artists in numbers? YOU haven't heard of them, and that bespeaks, not the lower quality of the artist in question, but the lower level of knowledge that you possess on the subject of music in general. > ...well I don't know anything about biological clocks.All I know is > Zep IV is about as close as you can come to a classic rock album.It's > still going strong."Dark Side of the Moon" is the only album that de- > served a place in the top five on that poll.The rest of the poll was a > farce. Of course, because it contradicted your holy personal taste. I think the first five words of this last extract (alone, by themselves) sums up the truth about you and your opinions, Palena. -- "Wait a minute. '*WE*' decided??? *MY* best interests????" Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr
lp102911@sjuvax.UUCP (palena) (10/28/85)
In article <1947@pyuxd.UUCP> rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) writes: >How DARE we have different tastes from YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >Pink Floyd? Kate Bush? The Beatles? The Who? FMEH!!!!!!!! I mean, >the Who are garbage compared to Led Zeppelin, I mean, who cares about a >band whose drummer died of substance abuse? ... Let me rephrase that! ... > >("The official report said he choked on vomit. ... ... Of course, it wasn't > his own vomit... The report didn't say whose vomit it was...") >-- ...yeah this is real interesting.If you're gonna be funny come up with your own jokes,don't rob them from a movie script.You see,my last call for a copyright lawyer met with some success (heh-heh)...
kirsch@sjuvax.UUCP (P. Kirsch) (10/29/85)
In article <1949@pyuxd.UUCP> rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) writes: >>> I refuse (with three R's) to believe that "Who's Next" >>> or any album by our favorite net.star could outrank Led >>> Zeppelin IV.Consequently I challenge the results of this sur- >>> vey. [PALENA] > >> You don't believe it Larry?? What would you do if I told you that I don't >> even like Led Zep IV that much?? Why is The Wall "history's stupidest >> concept album?? Because it's the true story of Roger Water's life?? Maybe >> you don't like depressing music but I happen to thrive on it and I think >> that the Wall is an incredible album. [PAUL KIRSCH] > >Not to flame you, Paul (I agree with your rebuttal to Palena wholeheartedly), >but although I've liked some of the music from "The Wall", I can't help but >think that as a whole it is a ridiculously self-indulgent egotistical >whining exercise on the part of Roger Waters. I recall reading his >insistence at the time of the recording of "The Wall" that HE *was* Pink >Floyd, that the band was his ideas, his vision, his music. The whole theme and >content seemed symptomatic of the whiny "singer-songwriter" motif wherein >the singer talks about his incredible problems in life and blames them >all on the other people around him (often MOTOS's). (Reminds me a bit >of the ethic in John Parr's "Naughty Naughty" video---when someone doesn't >do what I want, they're at fault, and a happy ending would have them "giving >in" in the end; just one example from MTV.) > >Didn't he go through a divorce around this time? I ask because two of the >biggest "stars" of the moment, Phil Collins and Sting, bolstered their careers >(and found something to write about endlessly) as a result of divorce, and >seem to fit into that same category. Sting recanted "Every Little Thing She >Does Is Magic" with "Every Breath You Take" (both about his ex-wife). He >later claimed that "If You Love Someone Set Them Free" was his own answer to >"EBYT". Yet if you think about it, he wasn't offering to "set free" the one >he had been watching who belonged to him in "EBYT", he was demanding that HE >be set free! Not to mention "Fortress Around Your Heart"... (OK, I won't >mention it.) > >I digress... >-- >"iY AHORA, INFORMACION INTERESANTE ACERCA DE... LA LLAMA!" > Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr Yes Rich, he did go thru a rather brutal divorce. I would have to agree with you that the album is full of whiny depressing vocals but I still love it. "Nobody Home" is one of my favorite songs on the album. I also like the Wall for the incredible guitar work also--I've always been a fan of Gilmour's searing minor key leads. I know a lot of people who agree with you Rich but I like most whining/moaning vocals a lot (For eg., Joy Division is my favorite band) -- Another wunnerful letter from the semi-intelligent rotting brain of: Paul Kirsch St. Joseph's University Philadelphia, Pa { astrovax | allegra | bpa | burdvax } !sjuvax!kirsch Warning: Objects in Terminal Room are Closer than they Appear...
rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) (10/31/85)
>>How DARE we have different tastes from YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>Pink Floyd? Kate Bush? The Beatles? The Who? FMEH!!!!!!!! I mean, >>the Who are garbage compared to Led Zeppelin, I mean, who cares about a >>band whose drummer died of substance abuse? ... Let me rephrase that! ... >> >>("The official report said he choked on vomit. ... ... Of course, it wasn't >> his own vomit... The report didn't say whose vomit it was...") > ...yeah this is real interesting.If you're gonna be funny come up with > your own jokes,don't rob them from a movie script.You see,my last call > for a copyright lawyer met with some success (heh-heh)... Why do you think I "quoted" it? (Given his previous opinions, it wouldn't surprise me if Palena thought that Spinal Tap was a real band. He strikes me as the type who would be impressed by amplifiers that go up to 11... ) -- Anything's possible, but only a few things actually happen. Rich Rosen pyuxd!rlr
rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) (10/31/85)
> Yes Rich, he did go thru a rather brutal divorce. I would have to agree > with you that the album is full of whiny depressing vocals but I still > love it. "Nobody Home" is one of my favorite songs on the album. I also > like the Wall for the incredible guitar work also--I've always been a fan > of Gilmour's searing minor key leads. I know a lot of people who agree with > you Rich but I like most whining/moaning vocals a lot (For eg., Joy Division > is my favorite band) [KIRSCH] It's one of mine, too. (Watch Palena flame us both for daring to mention a band he's never heard of!) But Curtis expressed real emotional angst, and the music's uniqueness of style and passion blended so well with what Curtis was singing that to me it falls into a completely different arena of both incredible originality and power. -- "There! I've run rings 'round you logically!" "Oh, intercourse the penguin!" Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr
barth@tellab1.UUCP (Barth Richards) (11/04/85)
In article <2416@sjuvax.UUCP> kirsch@sjuvax.UUCP (P. Kirsch) writes: >In article <2406@sjuvax.UUCP> lp102911@sjuvax.UUCP (Larry Palena) (But don't bother!!) writes: >>>>>>> >>> The USENET top 78 album list <<< >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>1) Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon - 190.5 >>>>>>>2) Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here - 174 >>>>>>>3) Pink Floyd - The Wall - 149 >>>>>>>4) Who - Who's Next - 140 >> >> I refuse (with three R's) to believe that "Who's Next" >> or any album by our favorite net.star could outrank Led >> Zeppelin IV.Consequently I challenge the results of this sur- >> vey.My own personal theory is that everybody's favorite net- >> poster at mit-eddie went around bribing people at his school >> to use their accounts to vote.This would nicely explain why >> 4 of the top 6 albums are from Pink Floyd and you-know-who. >> I CAN'T believe that The Wall,history's stupidest concept album, >> could beat Led Zep IV by 30 votes!!! All of you voters better rem- >> ember this next time you whistle along with "Stairway to Heaven" >> or stomp your feet to "Misty Mountain Hop".You've dealt that album >> an injustice!!! >> > >You don't believe it Larry?? What would you do if I told you that I don't >even like Led Zep IV that much?? Why is The Wall "history's stupidest >concept album?? Because it's the true story of Roger Water's life?? Maybe >you don't like depressing music but I happen to thrive on it and I think >that the Wall is an incredible album. Possibly three Pink Floyd albums made it >because they are a highly technical group/ good late night music and I would >think a lot of people involved with Computers would be late night people. >(Don't flame me on this last statement--it's just a passing thought) Hear! Hear! I'm soooooooo sick of hearing Zeppelinians expressing their fervid religious witness in public. I agree with P. Kirsch on Pink Floyd. None of the Floyd are fantastic technical musicians, but they know how to use the skills that they have. They take their time and do things right, and they put some thought into what they do. Barth Richards Tellabs, Inc. Lisle, IL "You can't have everything....... .............where would you put it?" -Steven Wright p.s. If you like depressing music, you should try Joy Division.