KFL%MX.LCS.MIT.EDU@MC.LCS.MIT.EDU ("Keith F. Lynch") (12/05/86)
From: mcvax!ukc!rjf@seismo.css.gov (R.J.Faichney) ... to ascribe consciousness to something man-made, no matter how perfect it's performance, will always require an effort of will. Nor could it ever be intellectually justified. ... You may be willing to identify with something which can do anything you can. I am not. And, though this is obviously sheer guesswork, I'm willing to bet a lot of money that the vast majority of people (*not* of AIers) would be with me. Don't forget that "performance" doesn't just mean that it can play chess or build a radio as well as you can. It also means it could write one of these net messages, claiming that it is conscious but that it has no way to be sure that anyone else is, etc. The net is an excellent medium for Turing tests. Other than our knowledge of the current state of the art, we have no evidence that any given contributor is human rather than a machine. Let me play the Turing game in reverse for a moment, and ask if you would bet a lot of money that nobody would regard a computer as conscious if it were to have written this message? ...Keith