Laws@SRI-STRIPE.ARPA.UUCP (01/21/87)
From: Stevan Harnad <princeton!mind!harnad@seismo.CSS.GOV>: Worse than that, C-2 already presupposes C-1. You can't have awareness-of-awareness without having awareness -- i.e., direct, first-order experiences like toothaches -- in the first place. A quibble: It would be possible to remember having a toothache without actually having one. It is also possible, as Minsky seems to suggest, that my entire conscious perception of a current toothache is an "illusory pain" based on the memory of a neural signal of a moment ago. These views do not solve the problem, of course; the C-2 consciousness must be explained even if the C-1 experience was an illusion. My conscious memory of the event is more than just an uninterpreted memory of a memory of a memory ... -- Ken Laws