krus@diku.UUCP (Lars Povlsen) (10/29/86)
Path: diku!krus From: krus@diku.UUCP (Lars Povlsen) Newsgroups: mod.computers.laser-printers Subject: Persistent Font (Directory) definition. Message-ID: <2750@diku.UUCP> Date: 29 Oct 86 11:07:25 GMT Organization: DIKU, U of Copenhagen, DK Lines: 30 This note adress the ability to define fonts/procs on a ALW(+), in a fashion to store them in VM across jobs. Alas: Does anyone know how to define fonts/symbols on the LaswerWriter(+), so the definitions won't be lost at the end of the job. It would be nice to be able to define prologs once, and then subsequently use them in other jobs. Same thing goes for often used, user defined fonts. I suspect this has something to do with the save/restore recommendation mentioned in the Postscript language manual, page 94-95. But how to undo a save (with a restore <definitions> save) when you don't have the saveobject restore wants ? And, while I have the net attention, I have heard a document called ``Inside the LaserWriter'' mentioned, but where does one obtain a copy ? And are there other recommendable documents beside the Postscript Ref. [from Adobe] one could use, and thereby not using other peoples time to make up answers ? Our Apple supplyer only heard of the Adobe manuals. Help appreciated! -- Lars Povlsen, Institute of Datalogy, University of Copenhagen E-mail: krus@diku.uucp / ...!seismo!mcvax!diku!krus
tomm@tekig5.tek.CSNET (Tom Milligan) (11/11/86)
Path: tekig5!tomm From: tomm@tekig5.UUCP (Tom Milligan) Newsgroups: mod.computers.laser-printers Subject: Postscript to ImPRESS converter Message-ID: <1265@tekig5.UUCP> Date: 11 Nov 86 18:38:57 GMT Organization: Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, Or. Lines: 26 Keywords: Postscript, ImPRESS, converter Some time ago, I requested information about the availability of a Postscript to ImPRESS converter. In response to that posting, I received a few replies; they are summarized as follows: Several were from people seeking the same thing. One was from a person who said that Textset in Ann Arbor, MD had such a converter. A call to Textset by me yielded denials that Textset has such a thing. One was from a person at Adobe (makers of Postscript) saying that such a converter is impossible to develop essentially because Postscript has much greater functionality than ImPRESS, so a mapping from Postscript is impossible. I believe this. Those are all of the responses I got. Thanks to those who bothered to respond, and sorry I took so long to post this summary. Tom Milligan IG Engineering Computing Center Tektronix, Inc. tektronix!tekig5!tomm -- Tom Milligan [[Editor's note: Textset is in Michigan, not Maryland. --Rick]]
krus@diku.UUCP (Lars Povlsen) (11/12/86)
Path: diku!krus From: krus@diku.UUCP (Lars Povlsen) Newsgroups: mod.computers.laser-printers Subject: Font re-encoding in PS Message-ID: <2781@diku.UUCP> Date: 12 Nov 86 09:59:12 GMT Organization: DIKU, U of Copenhagen, DK Lines: 50 Hello Folks! Being Danish, I have a serious problem with the Adobe standard font encoding. That is, i miss the /aring symbol (a with a ring above) in the encodings. (And /Aring.) I am off course aware of the ability to make my own encoding, as given by the example in the Adobe cookbook. I have copied this to make the roman and helvetica fonts work. BUT.. now we have upgraded to the LW+, and would like to access all the fonts to write our language. Since there are approximately 34 fonts of interest I was a bit worried about the amount of memory taken by this operation. I checked it out with vmstatus and discovered that the memory used was: Font defined to same name other name 1'st font 3589 3400 following 2316 2372 (This varied a bit from time to time ??) So, my questions are: 1) Is there any smarter/cheaper ways of getting a few extra glyphs into the encoding of a font ? 2) Or, is there any way to show characters from a font not in the encoding ? 3) If negative to the first 2 questions, should I be concerned about using about 80K for the fonts ? (I think I should) Comments on this one would be appreciated. PS: Thanks to anyone replying to my previous posting (;o), and thank again for new answers. -- Lars Povlsen, Institute of Datalogy, University of Copenhagen E-mail: krus@diku.uucp / ...!seismo!mcvax!diku!krus
harry@uw-atm.UUCP (11/22/86)
Path: uw-atm!harry From: harry@uw-atm.UUCP (Harry Edmon) Newsgroups: mod.computers.laser-printers Subject: GKS -> Postscript Message-ID: <64@uw-atm.UUCP> Date: 22 Nov 86 01:34:46 GMT Organization: Dept. of Atmospheric Sciences, U. of Washington Lines: 8 Does anyone know of a program to translate GKS metacode into Postscript? Please send replies to the address below. -- Harry Edmon UUCP: uw-beaver!geops!uw-atm!harry (206) 543-0547 BITNET: 24440@UWACDC Department of Atmospheric Sciences University of Washington
news@gatech.UUCP (The News service) (11/25/86)
Path: unmvax!merlin!mcdermot
>From: mcdermot@merlin.unm.edu (John McDermott)
Newsgroups: mod.computers.laser-printers
Subject: Versatec raster converter for ln03 or imagen 8/300
Message-ID: <371@unmvax.unm.edu>
Date: 25 Nov 86 16:21:44 GMT
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Does anyone out there have a versatec raster converter for an
ln03 (not plus) or for an imagen 8/300? It would be nice if it
ran on 4.3, but I probably could convert something else.
Thanks 1M.
John McDermott
Univ of NM Dept of EECE
505/277-4650
{gatech,ucbvax}!unmvax!mcdermot
clark@beaver.cs.washington.edu@ssc-vax.UUCP (01/09/87)
Path: ssc-vax!clark From: clark@ssc-vax.UUCP (Roger Clark Swann) Newsgroups: mod.computers.laser-printers,mod.computers.apollo Subject: Nee help with Postscript Keywords: Apollo, Mentor Message-ID: <1082@ssc-vax.UUCP> Date: 8 Jan 87 22:04:01 GMT Distribution: na Organization: Boeing Aerospace Corp., Seattle WA Lines: 32 *** line eater food *** I need some help from some of you laser experts in regards to running an Apple Laser Writer from an Mentor/Apollo system. We have a network of Mentor workstations (Apollo Hardware) with Mentor's Postsricpt server driving an Apple Laser Writer. Things work OK when the output files are generated using Mentor's DOC tool. However, when trying to print plain old ascii type files to the Laser Writer things get VERY restricted. There is only one font available and the page margins appear to be fixed. Modifying the config file does nothing. Correct me if I am wrong here, but as I understand Postsript, it has all sorts of bells and whistles. Some of the things we would like to do is to rotate the print on the page by 90 degrees, print two pages of text reduced on one page, have a large selection of font styles and sizes. The documentation from Mentor regarding Postscript simply mentions the word 'Postscript' and that's it. As far as I can tell, Mentor has taken Postscript and added their own interface to make it work in the IDEA environment. In the process, they have prevented the user from having any access to Postscript. So, am I all wet or what? I would like to here some comments on the above and maybe some hints. Also, can someone point me to a good description of Postscript and what it is really capable of doing? Thanks Roger Swann uw-beaver!ssc-vax!clark
newbery@seismo.CSS.GOV@vuwcomp.UUCP (01/12/87)
Path: vuwcomp!newbery From: newbery@vuwcomp.UUCP (Michael Newbery) Newsgroups: mod.computers.laser-printers Subject: Wanted: International Phonetic Alphbet for Mac/Laserwriter or QMS Message-ID: <12586@vuwcomp.UUCP> Date: 11 Jan 87 23:39:19 GMT Reply-To: newbery@vuw90x.UUCP (Michael Newbery) Distribution: world Organization: Comp Sci, Victoria Univ, Wellington, New Zealand Lines: 18 This request is on behalf of our English Language Institute, who are searching for an International Phonetic Alphabet fount (or founts) for the Macintosh. A LaserWriter downline loadable fount is most preferable, but just bitmap founts will do. Failing (or as well as) a Mac version, we will take a QMS printer version. It seems like such a thing should exist, but thus far we have been unable to track one down. tanh(q) in antic.......................ipation. -- Michael Newbery ACSnet: newbery@vuwcomp.nz UUCP: {ubc-vision,alberta}!calgary!vuwcomp!newbery Une boule qui roule tue les poules. (Landslides kill chickens)
usenet@seismo.CSS.GOV@ukecc.UUCP (01/21/87)
Path: ukecc!kenneth From: kenneth@ukecc.uky.csnet (Kenneth Herron) Newsgroups: mod.computers.laser-printers Subject: How do you refill a Canon copier cartridge? Keywords: canon Message-ID: <1061@ukecc.uky.csnet> Date: 21 Jan 87 06:22:02 GMT Distribution: usa Organization: Univ. of Ky. Engineering Computing Center Lines: 13 The subject says most of it--I assume someone's doing it with a laser printer using the canon engine, and they use the same cartridge, only different toner. Specifically, I need to know (1) where to tap into the toner storage, (2) is the toner powder or liquid (pretty sure it's powder), (2b) How do you get it through the hole into the tank, & (3) if anyone knows, what kind of toner to use--like I said, it's different from what the laser printer uses. Muchos Thanksos in advance, we use that little sucker *a lot* and those $70 cartridges are eating us alive... -- ~~ Kenneth Herron Usenet: ...!cbosgd!ukma!ukecc!kenneth ~~ ~~ CSNET : kenneth@engr.uky.csnet ~~ ~~"The two most common things in the universe ~~ ~~ are hydrogen and stupidity." -- Harlan Ellison ~~
sjrapaport@watcgl.waterloo.edu.UUCP (02/12/87)
Path: watcgl!sjrapaport From: sjrapaport@watcgl.UUCP (Steve Rapaport) Newsgroups: mod.computers.laser-printers Subject: Re: Debugging PostScripty Message-ID: <586@watcgl.UUCP> Date: 12 Feb 87 17:59:48 GMT References: <8701271443.AA10063@june.cs.washington.edu> Reply-To: sjrapaport@watcgl.UUCP (Steve Rapaport) Organization: U. of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 101 Andrew Shore posted a downloadble error handler for PostScript in April 1986. I've got a copy and I'm sending it to the moderator for distribution to anyone who's interested. I'm also sending Bernie a copy right now, so he won't have to wait. ------------------------------------------------------------------- From: adobe!shore@su-glacier.arpa (Andrew Shore) Date: 29 Apr 1986 2120-PDT (Tuesday) Subject: revised PostScript downloadable error handler Here is our latest version of the downloadable PostScript error handler (ehandler.ps). When sent to any PostScript printer, it will download itself outside the printer's "server loop" (assuming the server loop password is correct) and redefine the action taken on a PostScript error. This handler prints a sometimes-helpful summary of the error on the thus-far-completed page and then executes the previous handleerror code as well (which in most PostScript printers will echo the error name and offending command over the communications channel). This version works on all existing Adobe PostScript implementations. It really helps when debugging raw PostScript code and new PostScript-generating applications. Enjoy, --Andy %! % lib/ehandler.ps -- Downloaded Error Break-page handler % Copyright (c) 1984, 1985, 1986 Adobe Systems Incorporated. % All Rights Reserved. 0000 % serverloop password /$brkpage where {pop pop(Error Handler in place - not loaded again\n)print flush stop} {dup serverdict begin statusdict begin checkpassword {(Error Handler downloaded.\n)print flush exitserver} {pop(Bad Password on loading error handler!!!\n)print flush stop}ifelse }ifelse /$brkpage 64 dict def $brkpage begin /prnt {dup type/stringtype ne{=string cvs}if dup length 6 mul/tx exch def/ty 10 def currentpoint/toy exch def/tox exch def 1 setgray newpath tox toy 2 sub moveto 0 ty rlineto tx 0 rlineto 0 ty neg rlineto closepath fill tox toy moveto 0 setgray show}bind def /nl{currentpoint exch pop lmargin exch moveto 0 -10 rmoveto}def /=={/cp 0 def typeprint nl}def /typeprint{dup type dup currentdict exch known {exec}{unknowntype}ifelse}readonly def /lmargin 72 def/rmargin 72 def /tprint{dup length cp add rmargin gt{nl/cp 0 def}if dup length cp add/cp exch def prnt}readonly def /cvsprint{=string cvs tprint( )tprint}readonly def /unknowntype{exch pop cvlit(??)tprint cvsprint}readonly def /integertype{cvsprint}readonly def /realtype{cvsprint}readonly def /booleantype{cvsprint}readonly def /operatortype{(//)tprint cvsprint}readonly def /marktype{pop(-mark- )tprint}readonly def /dicttype{pop(-dictionary- )tprint}readonly def /nulltype{pop(-null- )tprint}readonly def /filetype{pop(-filestream- )tprint}readonly def /savetype{pop(-savelevel- )tprint}readonly def /fonttype{pop(-fontid- )tprint}readonly def /nametype{dup xcheck not{(/)tprint}if cvsprint}readonly def /stringtype {dup rcheck{(\()tprint tprint(\))tprint}{pop(-string- )tprint}ifelse }readonly def /arraytype {dup rcheck{dup xcheck {({)tprint{typeprint}forall(})tprint} {([)tprint{typeprint}forall(])tprint}ifelse}{pop(-array- )tprint}ifelse }readonly def /packedarraytype {dup rcheck{dup xcheck {({)tprint{typeprint}forall(})tprint} {([)tprint{typeprint}forall(])tprint}ifelse}{pop(-packedarray- )tprint}ifelse }readonly def /courier/Courier findfont 10 scalefont def /OLDhandleerror errordict /handleerror get def end %$brkpage errordict/handleerror {systemdict begin $error begin $brkpage begin newerror {/newerror false store vmstatus pop pop 0 ne{grestoreall}if initgraphics courier setfont lmargin 720 moveto(ERROR: )prnt errorname prnt nl(OFFENDING COMMAND: )prnt/command load prnt $error/ostack known{nl nl(STACK:)prnt nl nl $error/ostack get aload length{==}repeat}if systemdict/showpage get exec /newerror true store/OLDhandleerror load end end end exec}{end end end} ifelse} dup 0 systemdict put dup 4 $brkpage put bind readonly put ------------------------------ End of Info-Postscript for Laser Lovers Digest **********************************************
jeff@beaver.cs.washington.edu@ssc-vax.UUCP (02/14/87)
Path: ssc-vax!jeff From: jeff@ssc-vax.UUCP (Jeffrey Jongeward) Newsgroups: mod.computers.laser-printers Subject: Re: Texas Instruments OmniLaser printers Message-ID: <1117@ssc-vax.UUCP> Date: 14 Feb 87 08:41:19 GMT References: <8702120345.AA07743@anl-mcs.ARPA> Organization: Boeing Aerospace Corp., Seattle WA Lines: 14 In article <8702120345.AA07743@anl-mcs.ARPA>, boyle@ANL-MCS.ARPA (James M. Boyle) writes: > In my experience, if you are used to a LaserWriter, the reason characters > look too thin is that the LW is a "write black" engine, where as the "thin" > printer has a "write white" engine. Since what is written tends to I was just looking at the OmniLaser today. Certain characters in some TeX fonts come out thin on the OL, but not too bad on the LW. Also, Courier resident fonts are not too good on the OL at < 10.0, but ok on the LW. The OL has the blackest black I've seen - much blacker than the LW. Resident fonts (except Courier) are very sharp and black on the OL. The "write white" technology may explain why the lightest 3 shades of gray almost don't exist on the OL, but are sharp on the LW. But I don't understand why Courier is so bad on the OL??
greenber@seismo.CSS.GOV@thebes.UUCP (02/15/87)
Path: swatsun!greenber From: greenber@swatsun.UUCP (Peter Greenberg) Newsgroups: mod.computers.laser-printers Subject: AFM files for LW Plus fonts Keywords: troff enscript PostScript Message-ID: <918@thebes.swatsun.UUCP> Date: 15 Feb 87 05:55:09 GMT Organization: Swarthmore College, Swarthmore PA Lines: 18 I recently (Feb. 14) posted (on net.sources) a Bourne shell program that spools a PostScipt program to a PS device (i.e. LaserWriter) that causes that device to write back an AFM table for one of its fonts back on the PS device's standard out (i.e. the tty connection to host). Now we want to know how to get troff to use the spiffy LW Plus AFM tables that we now have. We have a net of Sun3's running 4.2bsd and the full TranScript distribution. We know we should probably use pscatmap but we don't have a clue. Enscript works well with the new AFM tables gotten off the LW Plus. We would also like to know if there is software available to translate vfont tables into PS fonts and whether there are any spiffy user defined dingbat fonts floating out in the public domain. Peter Greenberg {...!seismo!bpa!swatsun!greenber} Swarthmore Coll. Swarthmore, PA 19081
gert@seismo.CSS.GOV@uvabick.UUCP (02/18/87)
Path: uvabick!gert From: gert@uvabick.UUCP (Gert Hulstein) Newsgroups: mod.computers.laser-printers Subject: Xerox font format Keywords: XEROX FONTS 4045 Message-ID: <118@uvabick.UUCP> Date: 17 Feb 87 23:22:22 GMT Lines: 7 Does anybody know how Xerox fonts are to be formatted for downloading to a 4045 printer ? All my manuals tell me is how to send Xerox pre- formatted fonts. Where can information about Xerox fonts be found ? Gert Hulstein, Amsterdam University mcvax!gert@uvabick.uucp
usenet@seismo.CSS.GOV@ukecc.UUCP (02/19/87)
Path: ukecc!wes From: wes@ukecc.uky.edu (Wes Morgan) Newsgroups: mod.computers.laser-printers Subject: Music and AppleWriters......<or HP Laserjets> Keywords: Argh! Message-ID: <1200@ukecc.uky.edu> Date: 19 Feb 87 14:31:30 GMT Organization: Paranoia Rampant @ UKentucky, Lexington Lines: 17 Does anyone have a font for Apple LaserWriters or HP Laserjets, implementing musical notation? I'd like to crank out some music. PostScript would work as well. I'm sort of a rookie at this stuff, so pardon any ignorance displayed above. Wes Morgan -- Wes Morgan UUCP: !cbosgd!ukma!ukecc!wes CSNET: wes@engr.uky.csnet BITNET: wes%ukecc.uucp@ukma " Disclaimer? Huh? You mean this was supposed to be *MY* opinion?"
uucp@ulowell.cs.ulowell.edu@rutgers.UUCP (02/19/87)
Path: ulowell!halleys!lipton From: lipton@halleys.UUCP (Gary Lipton) Newsgroups: mod.computers.laser-printers,mod.vlsi,comp.unix.wizards Subject: color plotting under ULTRIX Keywords: color plotter plot versatec Message-ID: <60@halleys.UUCP> Date: 19 Feb 87 14:21:31 GMT Lines: 17 We are currently trying to modify Cifplot, a VLSI b&w plotting program from Berkeley, to do color plotting. Included in the Berkeley package is Vdump, a data filter for plotting in b&w on a Versatec plotter. This is the file designated by the "cf" entry in the /etc/printcap file under ULTRIX. This program must be modified to do color plotting. What I would like to know is: a) Has anybody already done this? b) Is there any de facto or de jure standard out there for the format of color raster files? For example, is there header information that must precede the plot data, is there a particular order the colors should appear in, etc. Gary Lipton Massachusetts Microelectronics Center lipton@m2c.org (M2C net) lipton@m2c.org (CSNET) harvard!halleys!lipton@harvard.harvard.edu
keithl@vice.tek.com.UUCP (02/20/87)
Path: vice!keithl From: keithl@vice.TEK.COM (Keith Lofstrom) Newsgroups: mod.computers.laser-printers Subject: Re: Are there any high quality PostScript job shops? Summary: Advertisements in "Personal Publishing" Message-ID: <1452@vice.TEK.COM> Date: 20 Feb 87 18:54:37 GMT References: <8702131332.AA06704@june.cs.washington.edu> Organization: Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, Or. Lines: 25 In article <8702131332.AA06704@june.cs.washington.edu>, cosell@PROPHET.BBN.COM (Bernie Cosell) writes: > We're trying to get a document printed. What we start with is a PostScript > source for it on our Vax here and what we'ed like is someplace that we > could send that source (somehow) and get it printed off on a REALLY > good postscript printer (2000 dpi would be great... The monthly magazine "Personal Publishing" has some ads for places - I don't know if these are any good: Rapid Transmit 8007 Douglas Ave, Racine WI 53402 800-247-8494 Typeline 170 State St, Teaneck NJ 07666 201-837-9839 Diskgraphics 2820 Taylor St, Dallas TX 75226 214-748-0661 Apparently, these places use Allied Linotron 300 Lasersetters with 2540 dpi, Postscript input, and various other things depending on the shop, such as modem download or compatability with various systems. You might give Allied Linotype a call and find out who their customers in Boston are; there are Postscript shops in Portland, so they should be all over. Let the net know about your results... -- Keith Lofstrom MS 59-316, Tektronix, PO 500, Beaverton OR 97077 (503)-627-4052
root%array@math.waterloo.edu.UUCP (02/20/87)
Path: Array!rob From: rob@Array.UUCP (Rob Marchand) Newsgroups: mod.computers.laser-printers,comp.text Subject: HPLaserJet Postscript Doohickey Keywords: postscript hp laser Message-ID: <343@Array.UUCP> Date: 20 Feb 87 19:00:05 GMT Distribution: na Organization: Array Systems Computing, Toronto, Ontario, Canada Lines: 18 Hi, I'm looking for info on an upgrade which I seem to remember seeing some time ago. It involved the replacement of the top end of an HP LaserJet with a casing providing PostScript and 2 Meg of on-board memory. As I recall, this upgrade wasn't *overly* expensive. Could someone pass along some info about i) Distributor/Manufacturer ii) Cost/Performance iii) Personel experience/misgivings/recommendations. We're looking for a reasonably inexpensive way to upgrade our text processing (from UNIX boxes) output. Any comments or recommendations are welcome.... ----------------------------------------------------------------- Rob Marchand {watmath,mnetor,decvax}!utzoo!dciem!array!rob Array Systems Computing 200-5000 Dufferin St. "But then again, I've been wrong Toronto, Ontario, Canada before...." (416) 736-0900 -----------------------------------------------------------------
news@seismo.CSS.GOV@sun.UUCP (02/21/87)
Path: sun!cognito!randolph From: randolph%cognito@Sun.COM (Randolph) Newsgroups: mod.computers.laser-printers Subject: Summary: PostScript and Sun Printers Message-ID: <13795@sun.uucp> Date: 21 Feb 87 19:55:57 GMT Sender: news@sun.uucp Reply-To: randolph@sun.UUCP (Randolph) Distribution: world Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mountain View Lines: 46 Some moons ago, I posted a request for medium-capacity printers which were Sun-compatable or supported PostScript. Here's the summary of responses. Grant Van Dyck (cvbnet!gvandyck) sent the following list. ENGINE Vendor Model PPM Engine life Ricoh T.I. 2115 15 1.5 Meg. pages Facit Opus 3 15 "" Toshiba DataProducts 1275 15 1.5 Meg. pages "" 2665 26 3 Meg. pages Fujitsu Fujitsu M3722 18 1.5 M Pages S.page (spage@sun) listed Texas Instruments, Diconix, Wang, Apollo, QMS, DataProducts, Linotype, and DEC. Geof (imagen!apolling!geof) suggested Imagen, which sells a line of printers which use Impress, their own printer control language. The line includes a high-speed printer which can print two-sided 11x17 signatures. Glenn Reid (greid@adobe.uucp) suggested I call Adobe customer support (415-852-0271) and ask to be sent a list of all PostScript printers currently available. S.page also suggested calling Adobe. Rich Burridge (richb%yarra.oz@seismo.css.gov, seismo!munnari!yarra.oz!richb) sent the following list of Dataproducts printer features - Full resolution text/graphics on a single page. - Full bit-map memory - no page too complex to print. - High speed - upto 26 pages per minute. - High print quality - partial pixel shadowing. - High print resolution - 300 dots per inch. - Domestic and European cutsheet paper sizes up to 11" x 17" - Straight through paper path for reliable performance. - 2660 supports images upto legal size. - 2665 supports images upto ledger size /A3. Bill Shannon (bshannon@sun) and some unknown person at rd@lri.uucp also suggested Dataproducts. Randolph Fritz sun!rfritz rfritz@sun.com
wdw%aucs%dalcs@math.waterloo.edu.UUCP (02/23/87)
Path: aucs!wdw From: wdw@aucs.UUCP (Bill Wilder) Newsgroups: mod.computers.laser-printers Subject: C.ITOH CIE 3000 Message-ID: <283@aucs.UUCP> Date: 23 Feb 87 16:41:58 GMT Reply-To: wdw@aucs.UUCP (Bill Wilder) Distribution: na Organization: School of Computer Science, Acadia Univ., Nova Scotia Lines: 10 We are considering the purchase of a C.ITOH CI 3000 Ion Deposition Printer at our site and I would be grateful for any comments (pro or con) someone has to make about this printer or Ion Deposition in general. I'd be happy to post a summary of comments received. Thanks very much. -- UUCP: {seismo|watmath|utai|garfield}!dalcs!aucs!wdw BITNET: {wdwvax|wdw}@Acadia Internet: {wdwvax|wdw}%Acadia.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU
mlwh@seismo.CSS.GOV@sun.UUCP (03/04/87)
Path: sun!mlwh From: mlwh@sun.uucp (Martin Hall) Newsgroups: mod.computers.laser-printers Subject: Wanted: Apollo Troff drivers for the HP LJ+ Keywords: apollo troff LaserJet Message-ID: <14469@sun.uucp> Date: 4 Mar 87 18:46:41 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Mtn View, CA Lines: 12 I hope this is the correct place for this: A friend of mine who does not have access to the net needs to know where he could find troff drivers that will output to an HP LaserJet Plus. The system he is currently running on is an Apollo. He called up ELAN but they are not ready to ship.....and while price is not a major consideration he would rather not have to pay the $1795 they are asking........
patwood@unirot.UUCP.UUCP (03/06/87)
Path: unirot!patwood From: patwood@unirot.UUCP (Patrick Wood) Newsgroups: mod.computers.laser-printers Subject: Re: does anyone know how to get a hold Keywords: casady fonts Message-ID: <382@unirot.UUCP> Date: 6 Mar 87 04:16:12 GMT References: <870223.175738z.04212.dberry@ELECTRA.LOCUS.UCLA.EDU> Reply-To: patwood@unirot.UUCP (Patrick Wood) Distribution: world Organization: Public Access Unix, Piscataway NJ Lines: 30 The last mailing I received from Casady Company was last summer. Their address then was Box 223779, Carmel, CA 93922. Tel # 408-646-4660. Other sources of nice PostScript fonts: Century software: 2483 Hearst Ave #175, Berkeley, CA 94709. Tel # 415-549-1901. Altsys Corp: P.O. Box 865410, Plano, TX 75086. Tel # 214-424-4888. Adobe, of course. Jim Kingston: 31 East 31st #10A, New York City 10016. Tel # 212-685-2520. Horton & Sutcliffe: 2216 Cliff Drive, Santa Barbara, CA 93109. Tel # 805-966-7563. They do custom fonts for reasonable ($1-2K) prices. We've had them do some fonts and they look great. Allotype typographics: 1600 Packard Rd. #5, Ann Arbor, MI 48104. Tel # 313-663-1989. Mainly specialized fonts (symbols and such). NeoScribe International: PO Box 6533, Hamden, CT 06517. Tel # 203-782-2200. Hebrew and other international character sets. SourceNet: P.O. Box 6767, Santa Barbara, CA 93160. Tel # 805-964-6066. They are compiling a "font buyer's guide" with samples of many public domain and commercially available fonts (not just PostScript, either). Pat Wood Editor, The PostScript Language Journal {ihnp4,harpo,seismo}!bellcore!phw5!phw
patwood@unirot.UUCP.UUCP (03/06/87)
Path: unirot!patwood From: patwood@unirot.UUCP (Patrick Wood) Newsgroups: mod.computers.laser-printers Subject: LaserJet ditroff driver Message-ID: <383@unirot.UUCP> Date: 6 Mar 87 04:19:01 GMT References: <8703041846.AA19988@sun.Sun.COM> Reply-To: patwood@unirot.UUCP (Patrick Wood) Distribution: world Organization: Public Access Unix, Piscataway NJ Lines: 4 Try Textware International 617-uni-text. They've been marketing a LJ driver for two years now. Pat Wood
patwood@unirot.UUCP.UUCP (03/06/87)
Path: unirot!patwood From: patwood@unirot.UUCP (Patrick Wood) Newsgroups: mod.computers.laser-printers Subject: PostScript type shops Keywords: PostScript, typesetters Message-ID: <384@unirot.UUCP> Date: 6 Mar 87 04:31:46 GMT References: <8702201854.AA13121@vice.TEK.COM> Reply-To: patwood@unirot.UUCP (Patrick Wood) Distribution: world Organization: Public Access Unix, Piscataway NJ Lines: 38 Our company has used Typeline extensively, and we've had great results from them. They do not have a Linotronic 300; they have a Linotronic 100, which is basically the same device, except its maximum resolution is 1270 DPI whereas the L300's max is 2540 DPI. Other companies that provide PS typesetting: Krishna copy centers (Berkeley, CA): 415-540-5959. Typesetting Service Corp (Providence, RI): 401-421-2264. Spectrum Arts, Ltd. (Baldimore): 301-462-6900. MacTypeNet (Livonia, MI): 313-477-2733. High Tech Type (Tulsa, OK): 918-587-5023. Ask for Eli Maghe, tell him I sent you. All of these shops except for Spectrum Arts have L300's. Prices can vary widely (from $6 per page to $16pp), so shop around. We're going to be publishing a fairly exhaustive list of these places in an upcoming issue of the PostScript Language Journal. I'll post the list here when it's finished. Pat Wood Editor, The PostScript Language Journal P.S. For those of you that have subscribed and are waiting for your first issue: please be patient. We're just starting this puppy, and we want to do it right. The first issue is being set right now (yes, we are using cut and paste is a few places: advertisers seem to think that halftone pictures should be stripped in), so we'll be mailing in the next three weeks (it'll still be going out in the first quarter, just not January). We're going to try and close up the loop about two weeks/issue for the next three, which will get us on schedule by the first issue of '88 (mid January). Bear with us...you should be pleased with what you get.
rick@seismo.CSS.GOV@uwmacc.UUCP (Rick Keir) (03/06/87)
Path: uwmacc!rick From: rick@uwmacc.UUCP (the absurdist) Newsgroups: mod.computers.laser-printers Subject: Re: does anyone know how to get a hold Message-ID: <1203@uwmacc.UUCP> Date: 6 Mar 87 20:51:44 GMT References: <870223.175738z.04212.dberry@ELECTRA.LOCUS.UCLA.EDU> Reply-To: rick@unix.macc.wisc.edu.UUCP (Rick Keir) Distribution: world Organization: UW-Madison Academic Computer Center Lines: 21 Summary: Read MacWorld or MacUser dberry@LOCUS.UCLA.EDU (Dan Berry) writes: >of CASADY WARE? They are supposed to be in Carmel CA, but directory >assistance never heard of them. They offer PostScript fonts such as Cyrillic Their stuff can be bought thru various mail order houses, like MacConnection, Also, they have an ad in the current MacWorld (April, 1987, p 60). CasadyWare PO Box 223779 Carmel CA 93922 I suspect they don't have a phone because they are probably Mr. and Ms. Casady and their home computer -- their business doesn't really require anything more than that, and fonts are not exactly the most lucrative thing to sell. Disclaimer: I am not connected with any of these companies other than as a customer. -- {don't ask me about leon -- I have no control over paying users } Rick Keir -- one floor up from the Oyster Tank -- UWisc - Madison {allegra, ihnp4, seismo}!uwvax!uwmacc!rick
richa@tekred.tek.com.UUCP (03/09/87)
Path: tekred!richa From: richa@tekred.TEK.COM (Rich Amber ) Newsgroups: mod.computers.laser-printers Subject: Re: war stories wanted Summary: Laserwriter praise Message-ID: <1035@tekred.TEK.COM> Date: 9 Mar 87 17:34:05 GMT References: <8703060212.9271@ur-seneca.arpa> Organization: Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, Or. Lines: 17 In article <8703060212.9271@ur-seneca.arpa>, ken@CS.ROCHESTER.EDU (SKY) writes: > I'm appealing to the collective intelligence of this mailing list to > help provide us with information to decide on a laser printer. > > What is your average yield from a Canon LBP-CX (Laserwriter) > cartridge? 3000-4000 is suggested as good, but someone quoted 8000. We have been using an Apple Laserwriter, connected to Macs and a Vax (Unix) for just over a year. While the specs are that it should run about 3000 copies per month, we have been running 8-9000 per month and have had only one repair necessary in that time. The toner cartridges are spec'd at 3000 copies per cartridge (they seem to like that number), and indeed, the indicator shows red at about 3000- 3500 copies. We remove the cartridge, give it a good shake and put it back in. We are getting 5-5500 copies per cartridge without noticable print quality degradation.
davew@gvgpsa.UUCP.UUCP (03/11/87)
Path: gvgpsa!davew From: davew@gvgpsa.UUCP (David C. White) Newsgroups: mod.computers.laser-printers Subject: Re: war stories wanted Keywords: postscript Message-ID: <247@gvgpsa.UUCP> Date: 10 Mar 87 23:53:55 GMT References: <8703060212.9271@ur-seneca.arpa> Reply-To: davew@gvgpsa.UUCP (David C. White) Distribution: world Organization: Grass Valley Group, Inc., Grass Valley, CA Lines: 29 In article <8703060212.9271@ur-seneca.arpa> ken@CS.ROCHESTER.EDU (SKY) writes: >I'm appealing to the collective intelligence of this mailing list to >help provide us with information to decide on a laser printer. > >We have pretty much decided on a Postscript printer. These are the some >of the contenders: > > Apple Laserwriter > QMS PS800 > Dataproducts 2660 > > >Do you have any suggestions for other printers? If you like a printer >do tell me why but if you have war stories, I will be all ears. I also am in the process of trying to select a laser printer to be used on a MVAX, mainly to spool off files coming from a bunch of AT clones on an ethernet network. I have ruled out the Apple Laserwriter because of its low paper capacity and it is very slooooowww at doing graphics (maybe they all are). How about the TI 2108 and 2115? The specs on them look good but I have been getting some bad reports about them, and the last I heard from a TI distributor was that the 2115 had an engineering hold on it because of poor print quality. Any recommendations and horror stories would be appreciated. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave White Grass Valley Group, Inc. P.O. Box 1114 Grass Valley, CA 95945 UUCP: ...{tektronix | ucbvax!ucdavis}!gvgpsa!davew PHONE: +1 916 478 3052
ddb@viper.UUCP.UUCP (03/11/87)
Path: viper!ddb From: ddb@viper.UUCP (David Dyer-Bennet) Newsgroups: mod.computers.laser-printers Subject: PD fonts or font tools for QMS Kiss? Message-ID: <656@viper.UUCP> Date: 11 Mar 87 16:49:12 GMT Reply-To: ddb@viper.UUCP (David Dyer-Bennet) Distribution: world Organization: Terrabit Software Lines: 15 Does anybody know of the existence of any public domain fonts, or font creation tools (like a font editor) for the QMS Kiss laser printer? I'm particularly interested in tools that run on MS-DOS, but I'm having little enough luck that I'd like to hear about anything. Failing pd, does anybody know anything about the fonts supposedly commercially available from QMS for download into the Kiss? I know I can find out prices and such from QMS or dealers -- but has anybody else used them? Are the assortments reasonable? Etc. -- David Dyer-Bennet UUCP: ...{amdahl,ihnp4,rutgers}!{meccts,dayton}!viper!ddb UUCP: ...ihnp4!umn-cs!starfire!ddb Fido: sysop of fido 14/341, (612) 721-8967
root@LOCUS.UCLA.EDU.UUCP (03/12/87)
Path: ucla-cs!mitch From: mitch@CS.UCLA.EDU Newsgroups: mod.computers.laser-printers Subject: HELP! (laserwriter/legal-size paper) Message-ID: <4991@shemp.ucla-cs.UCLA.EDU> Date: 12 Mar 87 19:08:44 GMT Sender: root@ucla-cs.UCLA.EDU Reply-To: mitch@CS.UCLA.EDU (Bob Mitchell) Distribution: na Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Lines: 13 I've been struggling with this problem off and on for several months. We are using the Transcript package (sans Ditroff) on a Vax 750/4.2 BSD with an Apple LaserWriter. Several of our users have a need to print documents on legal-size paper, and we have a legal-size tray for the laserwriter. The problem is, I cannot discover the proper combination of ptroff/troff/pscat/lpr options to make the laserwriter print properly on 14-inch paper. The documents are formatted correctly for long paper, but the laserwriter barfs. Has anybody out there had any better luck?
starkweather.pa@XEROX.COM.UUCP (03/13/87)
I believe you are looking for the PS Jet by The Laser Connection. I do not have their address but there have been several ads in PC Week, PC World etc. where you might look. The cost was $2995. I have two LaserJets and am going to upgrade at least one of them. Gary Starkweather - Xerox PARC
gerard@tscs.UUCP (03/16/87)
Path: tscs!gerard From: gerard@tscs.UUCP (Stephen M. Gerard) Newsgroups: mod.computers.laser-printers Subject: Re: Submission for mod-computers-laser-printers Keywords: TI OmniLaser 2115 Message-ID: <107@tscs.UUCP> Date: 15 Mar 87 23:09:42 GMT References: <8703102353.AA14571@gvgpsa.UUCP> Reply-To: gerard@tscs.UUCP (system administrator) Distribution: world Organization: Total Support Computer Systems, Tampa, Florida Lines: 50 In article <8703102353.AA14571@gvgpsa.UUCP> davew@gvgpsa.UUCP ("David C. White") writes: >I also am in the process of trying to select a laser printer to be used >on a MVAX, mainly to spool off files coming from a bunch of AT clones >on an ethernet network. I have ruled out the Apple Laserwriter because >of its low paper capacity and it is very slooooowww at doing graphics >(maybe they all are). How about the TI 2108 and 2115? The specs on >them look good but I have been getting some bad reports about them, and >the last I heard from a TI distributor was that the 2115 had an >engineering hold on it because of poor print quality. Any >recommendations and horror stories would be appreciated. We have a Texas Instruments OmniLaser 2115, it works fine except for the following SMALL problems: Software switches for the following functions do not work. 1 - Changing input bins (250 pages each) 2 - Output jogger selection 3 - Switching software emulation modes (PostScript Batch, PostScript Interactive, HP7475 Plotter, Diablo 630, TI 850 printer). 4 - Control panel behaves strangely, but does work. 5 - Manual leaves a great deal to be desired, it is photocopied and stapled together, not what you would expect with a 8K printer. The manual gives no insite on how to use PostScript, it says to get the "PostScript Language Reference Manual" and the "PostScript Language Cookbook and Tutorial". These books are fair books for the beginner, but were written for version 23, and the TI used version 45. I have no idea what has changed during those 22 revision levels, I would assume more than just the number. On the plus side: 1 - The print quality looks good to me, although it seems to be a little thirsty for toner. 2 - 15ppm is good for mutiple copies or character printer emulations, but there is no way to get 15ppm when using PostScript. 3 - The blacks are good and black, much better than the Canon engine. 4 - Supports Centronics, RS-232, RS-422, and AppleTalk interfaces. The serial interfaces support many baud rates up to 57600. 5 - Lots of memory, 2Mb memory for the 2108 and 3Mb for the 2115. 6 - The pages come out face down, so collation is not needed. I have been complaining to our distributor about the problems, they have not had much word back from TI, hopefully new ROMS will be out shortly. Overall I would rate the printer very highly, all of the problems should be fixed shortly if TI gets on the ball. I have previously looked at Apple LaserWriters and Imagen Innovator, and choose to buy the TI. If anyone has found any solutions to the above problems, please let me know.
dgh@dukempd.UUCP.UUCP (03/23/87)
Path: dukempd!dgh From: dgh@dukempd.UUCP (Doug Heatherly) Newsgroups: mod.computers.laser-printers Subject: MicroVMS and HP laserjet+ Keywords: MicroVMS, laserjet Message-ID: <331@dukempd.UUCP> Date: 23 Mar 87 04:12:49 GMT Organization: Duke University Physics Dept.; Durham, N.C. Lines: 16 Our laboratory recently purchased a Microvax II and MicroVMS. We also purchased a HP Laserjet 500 for use with our IBM PCs. We would like to use the laserjet with the microvax probably through a DHV11 port and are interested in any problems we might have doing this. We will probably use Saturn-WP and Saturn-Graph, both of which I am told have HP laserjet support. Thanks in advance Doug -- Doug Heatherly 1-919-684-3032 Box 3870 DUMC dgh@dukempd.uucp Durham, N.C. 27710 mcnc!duke!dukempd!dgh
henders@watdcsu.waterloo.EDU.UUCP (03/23/87)
Path: watdcsu!henders From: henders@watdcsu.UUCP (Paul Henderson [dcs]) Newsgroups: mod.computers.laser-printers Subject: Re: Botchyness on Imagen (or other Cannon) printers Message-ID: <3160@watdcsu.UUCP> Date: 23 Mar 87 19:08:59 GMT References: <8703170752.AA06997@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 14 In article <8703170752.AA06997@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, tgd@oregon-state.CSNET (Tom Dietterich) writes: > > We have an Imagen 8/300 and frequently we have a region about the > size of a nickel in the lower right-hand corner of the page (approximately > 1.5inches from the bottom and from the right hand page edge) in which > the print is washed out, faint, or missing. . . . > We had a similar problem on our Imagen 24/300, and found that it was due to the paper picking up moisture and "warping" so that it was not in continuous contact with the drum. This was a problem when the machine was new and usage was low. Our usage is now high enough that paper never "ages" in the input tray, and our operators never unpackage paper until it needs to be loaded into the printer.
david@ci-dandelion.UUCP.UUCP (03/24/87)
Path: ci-dandelion!david From: david@ci-dandelion.UUCP (David Watson) Newsgroups: mod.computers.laser-printers Subject: Re: Ultrix troff bug: complain now or hold your peace... Message-ID: <702@ci-dandelion.UUCP> Date: 23 Mar 87 21:11:30 GMT References: <8703202302.AA09020@woodpecker.DEC.COM> Reply-To: david@ci-dandelion.UUCP (David Watson) Distribution: world Organization: Cognition, Inc., Billerica, MA Lines: 13 The problems with the Ultrix troff "man" macros supplied with Ultrix 1.1 were minor. I had no trouble patching the macros to print beautifully on our LaserWriter using Adobe TranScript; almost all of the modifications I made were due to the 8-1/2" x 11" page size. However, the supplied macros seem to have changed considerably for Ultrix 1.2. If you are having trouble with the 1.2 macros, perhaps the 1.1 macros will work for you if you can get them. If you can't get them, I suppose you will now be more frustrated than ever! -D.
usenet@JADE.BERKELEY.EDU.UUCP (03/24/87)
Path: jade!violet.berkeley.edu!defron From: defron@violet.berkeley.edu (Daniel Efron) Newsgroups: mod.computers.laser-printers Subject: multiple fonts & transcript Message-ID: <2905@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: 23 Mar 87 23:28:14 GMT Sender: usenet@jade.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: defron@violet.berkeley.edu(Daniel Efron) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 12 Keywords: ptroff, transcript I'd like to mix font families using troff and Adobe's pscat for my Apple LaserWriter. For instance I'd like to be able to say: This is \fHHelvetica\fR. This is \f(HIHelvetica Italic\fR. The 'This is' would be in Times-Roman and the other parts would be in the Helvetica font families. The problem is that both troff and pscat require you to supply font descriptions and it appears I can only supply the description for one family at a time. Any help would be appreciated. Dan Efron defron@violet
patwood@edu.UUCP (03/25/87)
Path: unirot!patwood From: patwood@unirot.UUCP (Patrick Wood) Newsgroups: mod.computers.laser-printers Subject: Re: PostScript Printers Message-ID: <444@unirot.UUCP> Date: 25 Mar 87 03:02:23 GMT References: <44@ethz.UUCP> Reply-To: patwood@unirot.UUCP (Patrick Wood) Distribution: world Organization: Public Access Unix, Piscataway NJ Lines: 9 The TI OMNI lasers run the newest version of PostScript (version 45.0), which supports the HP LaserJet's control codes (or was that HPGL...can't keep all these protocols straight; I tend to think of them as PostScript and "the rest"). Upgrades for Apples and others will probably be coming about soon. Pat Wood Editor, The PostScript Language Journal bellcore!phw5!phw