[mod.computers.vax] uVAX-II vs. 8200

jmleonar@CRDC.ARPA ("Dr. Joseph M. Leonard") (03/07/86)

I currently have a large scientific software system running on a VAX-11/730
(yes, I know I'm crazy) and am looking to add additional hardware to
improve the situation.  What I am interested in is any comments on the
relative merits of the uVAX vs. the 8200 - I am forced by budgetary
restrictions to limit myself to the low-end machines.

The types of programs that run most ofter are essentially compute bound
(with some I/O to the terminal, but not a significant fraction).  Monitoring
the 730 indicates that all is well, except for the 100% usage.  As there
HAS to be some reason for DEC to have two machines in the same price
range (I think), there MUST be something that distinguishes the two...

If I get a bunch of useful responses, I'll summarize them to the net.  I
am forced to stick to a VMS machine (no flames, please) by initial
design and implementation.

                               Thanks in advance,

                                     Joe Leonard
                                 <jmleonar@crdc.arpa>

P.S. The differences can include the ability to network the machines
     together, as well as the availability of peripherals.

lucas@A.PSY.CMU.EDU (pete lucas) (03/09/86)

Well, here's one thing to consider when choosing between a uVAX and an 8200:
The third-party Q-bus market is large, mature, and wonderfully competitive.
Building a board for an 8200 requires the complex, DEC-proprietary BI
interface chip.  DEC has made no bones about their plans to license this
technology only to manufacturers of "complimentary products".  Don't expect
it to be reverse-engineered quickly.

When the uVAX II was announced, DEC's price for a 4mb memory array was
$12K.  Within 6 months, the going price for 3rd party equivalents was not
much more than one-tenth that.  Don't hold your breath waiting for the same
to happen with BI memory.
				-pete lucas (lucas@a.psy.cmu.edu)