[net.sf-lovers] EMissions and Quasars

richardt@orstcs.UUCP (richardt) (08/14/85)

Somewhere back there, somebody at topaz (having now narrowed the domain to the 
known univers :-) ) mentioned how Earth is brighter than the Sun in certain
frequencies.  Note that Earth cannot be the brightest object in the system,
as that would require coming up with more energy than the Sun produces --
continuously.  

	In any case, consider the following line of logic:
	1. certain microwave bands which are used to communicate
	   more information farther are brighter than the Sun
	2. The quest for open EM frequencies and more power
	   (remember the 5 watt limit!) still goes on, with
	   a very high rate of competition.
	3. Eventually a noticeable percent of the frequencies used 
	   by man will outshine the Sun.  The number and width of
	   frequencies also continues to grow.
	
	Parallel line of logic:
	1. People are predominantly diurnal.  Thus, Terran EM emissions
	   vary with time of day, season, and other purely arbitrary *LOCAL*
	   factors.

	Therefore, the Sol Systems' EM radiation levels vary noticeably 
	at (to an unsuspecting alien) apparently random intervals.
	Now, what are the Super-variable stars that are currently giving
	the astronomers and physicists headaches?  Quasars and Pulsars! Why?
	Because Quasars and Pulsars *RADIATE EM PATTERNS WHICH ARE HIGHLY 
	VARIABLE IN CONCENTRATION, CONTENT, AND DISTRIBUTION, AND APPARENTLY 
	VARY RANDOMLY AT RANDOM INTERVALS!*  Working from the likelyhood that
	Earth will continue to radiate more EM in more range and with more
	power, *ENENTUALLY EARTH WILL APPEAR TO BE A QUASAR OF SORTS!*

	Maybe we've already found some of the other intelligent races in
	the multiverse and just don't know it!  BTW, does anyone remember
	how much EM Trantor put out???

					orstcs!richardt
"It's not a treatise on political thought, it's a *COOKBOOK*" <-- source it!

mwtilden@watmath.UUCP (K.L. Martin, Hardware) (08/19/85)

>					orstcs!richardt
>"It's not a treatise on political thought, it's a *COOKBOOK*" <-- source it!

My all-time favorite twilight zone episode: "To Serve Man". Rather
large Lurch-like aliens come down and solve all our problems for a price
that is not apparent until ... it's to late.

MWT
 

herbie@watdcsu.UUCP (Herb Chong - DCS) (08/19/85)

In article <7800040@orstcs.UUCP> richardt@orstcs.UUCP (richardt) writes:
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>	Therefore, the Sol Systems' EM radiation levels vary noticeably 
>	at (to an unsuspecting alien) apparently random intervals.
>	Now, what are the Super-variable stars that are currently giving
>	the astronomers and physicists headaches?  Quasars and Pulsars! Why?
>	Because Quasars and Pulsars *RADIATE EM PATTERNS WHICH ARE HIGHLY 
>	VARIABLE IN CONCENTRATION, CONTENT, AND DISTRIBUTION, AND APPARENTLY 
>	VARY RANDOMLY AT RANDOM INTERVALS!*  Working from the likelyhood that
>	Earth will continue to radiate more EM in more range and with more
>	power, *ENENTUALLY EARTH WILL APPEAR TO BE A QUASAR OF SORTS!*

not likely.  the existence of pulsars was noticed precisely for the
opposite reasons.  they are more accurate than the majority of
timepieces that the average consumer can even get to see, let alone
buy.  only when measuring differences in period on the order of
microseconds does one begin to find variations in the period of a
typical pulsar.  their spectrums are well defined and, correcting for
any observable supernova remnant visible, very close to being the
same.

quasars are still giving astronomers problems, but not for any of the
above reasons.  some recent observations have confirmed that at least
some of the quasars observed really are at the huge distances measured
but their red shifts.  at the typical distance of a quasar, huge
amounts of energy need to be consumed to be visibly as bright as they
are, several orders of magnitudes above that of our galaxy.  even
postulating that the observed quasars are really broad band
transmissions from a transmitter a thousand times larger than Aricebo,
energies on the order of several solar masses/year need to be used to
produce a signal that is comparable to a quasar even if it is all aimed
at our general direction.  i wouldn't want to be near that.  if they
aren't aimed in our direction but are omnidirectional broadcasts, then
the energy requirements grow to the order of 10^6 solar masses/year.
this is much more likely, since there are hundreds of observed
quasars.  why people that far away and that far in the past would hae
wanted to look in our direction for as long as they have is beyond me
8-).  the thing that has astronomers most puzzled is where all this
energy is coming from.  remember that the numbers i'm quoting are for
complete conversion of that amount of matter to energy.  quasars are
not particularly variable by galactic standards.

Herb Chong...

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