[mod.computers.vax] Kermit over DECservers?

macmillan%wnre.aecl.cdn%ubc.CSNET@CSNET-RELAY.ARPA (John MacMillan) (06/20/86)

Dick Thomson has just heard of an internal Dec memo that states
"Thou shall not use file transfer program on Decservers".
I was going to put this on EAN put I thought that maybe you
could contact your Dec communications people to verify this memo and
get an official explanation.

(Kermit is the file transfer protocol in question)

Does anyone have any information on this?

John MacMillan
Atomic Energy of Canada
Whiteshell Nuclear Research Establishment
Pinawa, MB, Canada R0E 1L0

(204) 753-2311 ext. 2539

goodall%admin.okanagan.bcc.cdn%ubc.CSNET@CSNET-RELAY.ARPA (Dave Goodall) (06/20/86)

I have been using Kermit on a Decserver for some time without any problem.
It is probably a good idea to disable all of the terminal servers switch
characters and to disable broadcast messages, flow control and loss
notification.  This recommended in the terminal server User's Pocket Guide.

I have also been running DECnet on Rainbows and IBM PC's on a Decserver
without any problem.

Dave Goodall
Okanagan College
1000 K.L.O. Road
Kelowna, B.C., Canada
V1Y 4X8
(604) 762-5445 ext. 238

Magill@CIS.UPENN.EDU (CETS Operations Manager) (06/25/86)

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Dick Thomson has just heard of an internal Dec memo that states
"Thou shall not use file transfer program on Decservers".
I was going to put this on EAN put I thought that maybe you
could contact your Dec communications people to verify this memo and
get an official explanation.
(Kermit is the file transfer protocol in question)
John MacMillan
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I have been using KERMIT between my Rainbow and an assortment of VAXen via
a DECSA V2.1 with LAT V5.1 without any problems for quite some time.

I keep the Rainbow set at 8N and 4800 baud with jump scrolling and have never
seen any problems with any of the Kermit or recent LAT software versions.
(Kermit actually changes the baudrate and parity parity settings.)

Granted, I normally only transfer source code around via KERMIT between 
VMS(3.6, 4.1, 4.4) and Ultrix (1.1 and 1.2).
         VMS Kermit-32 V3.1.066
         VMS Kermit-32 V3.2.076
            CKermit    4c(057)
          MS-Kermit    V2.27
I have macros for MS-kermit defined to set the Baud rate, parity, 
handshake, flow control, escape character and to define the backspace 
key (the one above return on the Rainbow keyboard) for each of the different
systems I use (IBM 3081, Sperry 1100, DEC).
Set handshake none, set flow control xon, are the significant ones for 
the VAX/Terminal server connections.

I change the escape character because I also use the Kermit-32 to dial out
to access various external systems which also run kermit. And if youv'e 
ever run nested kermits you understand why.

In fact I never use the Rainbow terminal emulator but use MSKermit's VT100
emulator. It works fine. Even with Rainbow-Regis, for things like VAXSIM.