jimb@ISM780B.UUCP (08/20/85)
Re: Art vs. Good Reads (Somewhat Lengthy Mild Flame) Some of the intemperate postings regarding Art vs. A Good Read are ridiculous. The two have little to do with each other; a book that is good "art" may be a lousy "read" and vice-versa. Both are subjective judgements based on (usually) different sets of criteria. For me, a good read is defined as being accessible and interesting (plot, ideas, and/or characters). Art, on the other hand, has a set of generally accepted (but arguable and certainly not universally :-) accepted criteria that include something like: - Form of the work - Resonances between the work and the culture and other works of literature (Whatzza matter, don't believe the humanities have their own valid recursive logics?) - Texture and style of writing - Artistic composition of plot and characterization - Etc. I'm winging the definitions -- I'm not really into the literary criticism game -- but to deny that valid esthetic criteria (albeit qualitative, not quantititative) exist for Art is as simple minded as denials of mathematics, nuclear physics, or any other complex reality that requires education and insight to understand. (Oh, but Art doesn't have numbers? Well you can't use numbers to meaningfully distinguish a schmuck from a saint, but they both exist -- even if we don't have perfect agreement on who is who.) Ergo, the works of Larry Niven are great reads, I enjoy them immensely. But great Art? James Joyce and Thomas Pynchon have written great Art -- I also enjoy them -- when i *think* i understand what is going on -- but they are easy reads for nobody I know. (I have to admit, I prefer Art that is more accessible, but just because it's difficult/complex doesn't mean it's pointless, pompous, or anything else.) Part of the problem about discussing Art in SF is that very little great Art has been written. Close shots in my book include Canticle for Liebowitz, The Left Hand of Darkness, and....um, let me see, oh, maybe Lord of Light, but that's a sentimental favorite of mine that probably really falls short.... Some great short stories, too. SF has produced many more memorable *good* books, everything from Startide Rising, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, Neuromancer, etc., and a considerable number of good reads as well as mounds and mounds of dreck. (Sturgeon's Law: 95% of everything is crud. Except fantasy, which I also enjoy, it's 98%). As noted previously on this net, part of the problem about perceptions of Art in SF stem from the fact that most SF criticism is either hopelessly academic (for useless M.A.'s in Lit.), incestuous (you wash my back and I'll wash yours), uselessly destructive, or (most often) uninformed and uncritical -- everything's great, there are no standards. ("If everybody is somebody, then nobody is anybody." Gilbert & Sullivan.) In summary, it seems to me that to either make Art the litmus test for evaluating SF, or alternately, kicking Art in the balls as being humbug, get in the way of having one's mind open to the ideas and entertainment that SF can bring. (Sorry for getting carried away on a ramble on my introduction to the net. I've been reading the net for 2 months -- nobody had told me about the net for the preceding 18 mos. Will try for more brevity next time. -- from the bewildered musings of Jim Brunet UUCP: jimb at CCA/IMA (I'm told this works) usenet: !decvax!cca!ima!jimb (maybe this works) ARPA: ima!jimb@CCA-UNIX.ARPA (maybe this works)