[mod.computers.vax] Ethernet between buildings

$JCH@CLVM.BITNET (Jeffrey C Honig) (08/29/86)

One of our departments is installing some diskless Sun workstations in
two buildings with a Sun file server in another.  This of course
necessitates the use of Ethernet between the buildings (which are right
next to each other).  Up here in Northern NY we get alot of
thunderstorms during the summer and fall (especially this year!) and are
worried about lightning damage.

We asked Sun for Ethernet configurations guidelines and were sent a copy
of DEC's "Ethernet Installation Guide".  This manual recommends that
Fiber be used between buildings because it "Eliminates any potential
interbuilding grounding problems".  We know there are no grounding
problems.  DEC does does give information about running baseband
between buildings but does not even mention lightning arrestors.

The department doesn't want to spent the 10k to use fiber but I don't
want to recommend that they use baseband until I see some written
documentation on lightning protection.

Does anyone have any experience in this area or can anyone recommend
some specifications that deal with the subject?

Thanks much

Jeffrey C Honig
Schuler Educational Resources Center
Clarkson University
Potsdam, NY

KARCHER%MIT.MFENET@LLL-MFE.ARPA (08/31/86)

REPLY TO:  ETHERNET BETWEEN BUILDINGS

Fiber optic ETHERNET doesn't have to cost significantly more than coax. For
inter-building connections, fiber is the preferred choice. You will never have
to worry about grounding, noise or lightning - ever. 

Here, there are four buildings connected by 6 fiber cable ($2.20/meter) using
a star coupler and transceivers from Codenoll Technology  (of NYC). The 
transceivers (model 3030A - about $800 each) are connected between the fiber
and a DELNI in each building. All of our ETHERNET equipment (Vaxen and mixed
vendor terminal servers) is then plugged into the DELNI ports. There is not any
real ETHERNET coax involved (not yet possible with DEC optical repeaters). The
"other" ends of the fibers are connected to a centrally located optical star
coupler where the signals are mixed together and form a single ETHERNET. For a
two building setup, I believe you would not need a star coupler, just a pair of
transceivers (and DELNI's or the equivalent). 

In our case we found the major cost of inter-building ETHERNET was digging a
trench across the street and laying the conduit ($ 20K) to run the fiber cable. 
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C. A. Karcher                           Karcher%PFCVAX@MIT-ZERMATT.ARPA
MIT Plasma Fusion Center
Cambridge, MA