JOHNSON%nuhub.acs.northeastern.edu@RELAY.CS.NET ("I am only an egg.") (09/22/86)
Help again. It has been brought to my attention here that a user running a fixed job can be charged varying amounts. Our charging algorithm is simply rate/hour times CPU used. This means that a user performing the same task repeatedly with identical data is using differing amounts of CPU resource. For our site, this is not good. Brent Sterner Computing & Communications Services Natural Sciences Building The University of Western Ontario London, Ontario, Canada I've seen this too. There may be other things going on but one of the big things going on is interrupt time. The last time I looked, interrupt time was spread out over all users. It's very hard to figure out who owns what interrupt time and charge for it. Hence the general spreading of it over all jobs in the system. I've never timed it myself but others have told me of changes of up to 20 percent plus between stand-alone cpu time and busy interactive time for the same job. There is no way I know of to separate this out in VMS. You might try a weighted average but weighted against what? I run into this kind of thing when faculty come to me wanting to know how to time their algorithms for papers they are writing. I have to explain to them that it can't be done meaningfully on an interactive system. Of course they don't believe me and demand to know how other people have timed their algorithms if not on an interative system. I then explain about overhead and that the only meaningful cpu measurments are made from a stand-alone system. I then direct them to my boss to arrange for this. So far no one has gotten any stand-alone time. I guess they're doing it at 2:00 am or something. It really gets painful when computer science faculty ask this question. I get embarrassed. US mail: Chris Johnson Academic Computer Services Northeastern University 39RI 360 Huntington Ave. Boston, MA. U.S.A. 02115 AT&T: (617) 437-2335 CSNET: johnson@northeastern.edu ARPANET: johnson%northeastern.edu@relay.cs.net "So what's reality anyway? Nothin' but a collective hunch." Lily Tomlin