[mod.computers.vax] VMS batch crash and spying.

SYSYKL@HUJIMD.BITNET (Melnik Yehezkel) (12/06/86)

Hello vax world, do any one have any idea how to:
1. save the context of batch job so it can be saved before system shutdown
   and rerun when system is up again. Please note that we want to run a long
   (and large) program that take days to complete and so restart points in
   the command procedure are no good for us.
2. Is there any way to monitor any particular user that we suspect him for
   naughty behavior. We would love to have a record of his session without
   his knowledge. (set host 0 is no good he is to smart)
      thanks.

JOHNSON@nuhub.acs.northeastern.edu.UUCP (12/06/86)

     >Hello vax world, do any one have any idea how to:
     >1. save the context of batch job so it can be
     >   saved before system shutdown    and rerun when
     >   system is up again. Please note that we want to
     >   run a long    (and large) program that take days
     >   to complete and so restart points in    the
     >   command procedure are no good for us. 

     Unless DEC came up with it and didn't tell anyone, no there isn't.
Many users have been screaming for checkpointing for years.  The closest
behavior is RESTARTing a batch job from a known point.  This is totally
useless for a single long program.  Of course, you can always write your 
program so it checkpoints itself ... (more work)

     >2. Is there any way to monitor any particular user
     >   that we suspect him for naughty behavior. We would
     >   love to have a record of his session without his
     >   knowledge. (set host 0 is no good he is to smart) 

     There are products out that do this.  We have one from Clyde 
Software and we have used it for just this purpose.  Worked too.  We caught 
the guy and had him flogged, drawn and quarted.

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cetron%utah-ced@UTAH-CS.ARPA (Ed Cetron) (12/06/86)

Contact Clyde Digital Systems,Inc.
at 3707 N. Canyon Rd.
Suite 3E
Provo, Utah  84604

there products Audit and Control are top notch and will do the 'spying'
functions that you need.
-ed cetron