pugh@topaz.ARPA (07/30/85)
From: "pugh jon%e.mfenet"@LLL-MFE.ARPA Does anyone know what Elrond the boss elf's last name was, or what he did in his spare time? I had this nightmare where it was Hubbard and he was creating a legion of elves to stand on street corners recuiting people and I'm afraid to leave my terminal...
chris@umcp-cs.UUCP (Chris Torek) (07/30/85)
>Does anyone know what Elrond the boss elf's last name was, or what he did in >his spare time? Actually, we don't go for multiple names that way; more "son of" and "of the house of". And Elrond thanks you not to call him "the boss elf"; it reminds him too much of your Chicago gangsters (we had a narrow escape there). What we do in our spare time is none of your business, but if you must know, right now we're trying to figure out how to keep you humans from wrecking the place. Who do you think started all the back to nature movements anyway? -- In-Real-Life: Chris Torek, Univ of MD Comp Sci Dept (+1 301 454 4251) UUCP: seismo!umcp-cs!chris CSNet: chris@umcp-cs ARPA: chris@maryland
berman@isi-vaxa (09/04/85)
From: berman@isi-vaxa (Richard Berman) I hope this is the LAST message on Scientologists regarding Battlefield Earth. I didn't know that SF-LOVERS was also the RBIG (Religious Bigotry Interest Group). I just wanna hear about SF matters -- not someone's notions about the validity of ANY religion. Of course, there are those who argue that all religion is brainwashing... I get the impression from the two or three individuals writing such messages that they feel the Scientologists (and, no doubt, the Martians) are EVERYWHERE!! So keep looking behind the pictures and under the papers, because they're here someplace... P.S. I did rather like Battlefield Earth. If you didn't (or even if you did), I don't see how this relates to Scientology. I also like Donaldson, and I actually felt I learned something about life and especially about the "Despiser" from those books. Is that brainwashing? After all, isn't ALL learning "brainwashing"? I hereby formally suggest the abolishment of all forms of learning -- no, of all THOUGHT! That's the culprit! If only the masses would just do as we say... RB
tom@utcsri.UUCP (Tom Nadas) (09/04/85)
Postings on scientology are wholly appropriate to the science fiction net, as anyone aware of both that religions history and the history of sf is aware. Fact: scientology was created by a then-big-name SF writer. Fact: it was promoted through the editorial content of Astounding, the magazine we know today as Analog. Fact: almost all its early proponents were SF writers, including such notables as A. E. van Vogt and Donald Kingsbury (who has since been excommunicated). Fact: scientological themes run through the SF of those early days (SLAN is an example). Fact: Hubbard is using the Scientology organization to promote his SF, including his novels and a new magazine. Fact: Authors Services is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Church of Scientology with the sole mandate to promote Hubbard's own science fiction. Fact: Authors Services seriously considered having Scientologists stuff the ballot box for the Hugo. Informed discussion is not bigotry, and you do the readers of the net and yourself a grave injury by so freely tossing around a loaded term. RJS