[mod.computers.vax] Security and Info-Vax

xrjjm%6173.span@JPL-VLSI.ARPA.UUCP (02/04/87)

What exactly is the harm in releasing this material to students ?

-  As far as I can surmise, there hasn't been any discussions of a 'sensitive'  
nature on this mailing list (I am a new user to this list, so please correct me
if nessesary).  

-  Although the students have access, how many will do anything with (or even 
read) it ?  Most of the discusions here are about esoteric software bugs and
purchases of equipment that a student could never afford.  There is very little
here for a student to be interested in, so I suspect very few will continue
reading for very long.

-  Very few students leave college with any idea of what managing a large
computer system is like, be it Vax, Ibm, Gould, etc.  If access to this list
will help out anyone of any discipline understand what managing a system is
like then access is a good idea.

Since this is a public list, let the information remain public, maybe the
students will learn something...
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smith%eri.DECnet@MGHCCC.HARVARD.EDU.UUCP (02/14/87)

Re the recent stuff on students reading Info-VAX.  My own right to access
the ARPA Internet is a tad tenuous so my own understanding of the ground
rules and assumptions may be offbase.  But my own assumption is that 
putting something out on Info-VAX is not too far removed from broadcasting
it and/or publishing it.  "I shot a message into the air, it fell to earth
I know not where."  

Did anybody check my credentials before adding me to Info-VAX?  Am I
_really_ mild-mannered Smith (hah! a likely name) or am I Bytemaster
Syskruncher, the Black Avenger of the Spanish Main?

A student population is certainly, in my judgement, a group that is likely
to contain individuals who are willing and able to make bad use of security
related information.  But it seems to me that common sense would suggest
that if you want to keep stuff secret, you don't post it to Info-VAX.

Dan Smith	smith%eri.decnet@mghccc.harvard.edu
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