Bob.Colwell%CMU-CS-A@sri-unix.UUCP (03/27/84)
Is this L. Ron Hubbard the same bozo who fabricated the pseudo-science of Dianetics from whole cloth, spawning the Scientology cult? On that premise alone I have avoided even looking very closely at Battlefield Earth.
wombat@uicsl.UUCP (03/31/84)
#R:sri-arpa:-31800:uicsl:10700094:000:304 uicsl!wombat Mar 30 10:47:00 1984 The same. L. Ron Hubbarb wrote a lot of pulp SF before he invented Scientology. And whether or not he really said it, "If you want to make a lot of money, start a religion," is atttributed to him. He also suckered his friend, A.E. VanVogt, into Scientology. Wombat ihnp4!uiucdcs!uicsl!wombat
binder%dosadi.DEC@purdue-merlin.ARPA (04/01/84)
From: binder%dosadi.DEC@purdue-merlin.ARPA (Do not adjust your set...) Yes, the L. Ron Hubbard of "Battlefield Earth" is the same *deleted* who started dianetics and scientology. Before he turned into a *deleted* he was a fairly well known SF author, even roomed with Heinlein for a while. The L. stands for Lafayette. If you will take a close look at Hubbard's picture and compare it with Heinlein's description of Lazarus Long, you will see a remarkable similarity... Hubbard was quoted, once, long before he started the scientology thing, as saying (at an SF convention, I believe), "If you want to get rich, start a religion." Clearly, he is a very clever *deleted*! Or perhaps I should say "WAS a very clever..." There is serious ques- tion as to whether Hubbard still lives. The scientology *deleted*s maintain that he does, but that may be an elaborate fiction - they also have a mailbox in each of their "churches" into which the faithful can put "letters to Ron" - the supposition is that Hubbard himself reads and answers each one... Ah, me, my back aches! Cheers, Dick Binder decvax!decwrl!rhea!dosadi!binder
palmer@uw-june (David Palmer) (04/05/84)
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My favorite L. Ron Hubbard quote is approximately:
"Someday I'll pull something that will make P. T. Barnum
look like a piker."
This was quoted in a book about writing science fiction. The book
was by a husband-wife team (I think either the del Rays, the van
Voghts, or the Andersons) but I can't remember any more details.
I don't know whether the Scientologists believe that 'Ron' has the
gift of prophesy, but this is certainly compelling evidence.
David Palmerwombat@uicsl.UUCP (04/09/84)
#R:sri-arpa:-51000:uicsl:10700096:000:314 uicsl!wombat Apr 9 15:26:00 1984 Charles Platt's "interview"* with L. Ron gives fair evidence that the old boy is still with us. Platt was convinced. Seems like I heard a rumor that LRH was going to disinherit his son or some such for starting the "Hubbard's dead" thing, too. * In *Dream Makers II* Wombat ihnp4!uiucdcs!uicsl!wombat
KFL@MIT-MC.ARPA (08/30/85)
From: Keith F. Lynch <KFL@MIT-MC.ARPA> There is only one L. Ron Hubbard. He writes SF, he wrote the Dianetics books, and he founded Scientology. According to Reader's Digest, he claims to be trillions of years old and from another star system. ...Keith
lah%ucbmiro@Berkeley (08/31/85)
From: lah%ucbmiro@Berkeley (Commander RYN Leigh Ann Hussey) The story was told me as follows: many of the then-new (now rich and famous) Science Fiction authors were sitting around griping about how they weren't making any money. Then Heinlein or someone said, "Well, you KNOW the only way to make money these days is to found a new religion or invent a new therapy." At which point, Hubbard got a funny look in his eye, dashed out of the room, and the rest is history... (Naturally, I have no idea if this is true, but it sure makes a better story than some Hubbard's written!) Leigh Ann
snoopy@ecrcvax.UUCP (Sebastian Schmitz) (09/03/85)
Summary: Expires: References: <topaz.3495> Sender: Reply-To: snoopy@ecrcvax.UUCP (Sebastian Schmitz) Followup-To: net.sf-lovers Distribution: Organization: European Computer-Industry Research Centre, Munchen, W. Germany Keywords: Well. I read the following in a book by Isaac Asimov (one of his anthologies). Now I have gathered that the net is not very keen on Asimov in general, but this is a factual account. It transpires that Laffayette Ron Hubbard and Isaac Asimov, were both working with John W. Campbell (the editor czar). Apparently Isaac was waiting to be seen, when Laffy came storming out of Campbells office (he was angry because his story presumably got rejected) and raced out yelling: "One day I will invent a religion, and get amazingly rich and show you guys !!". So much for that. Perhaps we should ask Ron. But then he is sailing around the Mediteranean on his yacht, unable to take shore because there are several european police forces who would like a word with him for tax frauds amongst other things... But then he seems peanuts against the leader of the "Oregonian" Bhagwan sect, who wants to have a different Rolls Royce for every day of the year. He currently has about 40, I think. Folks, we are in the wrong business. You just don't make money the honest way... -- Love, Sebastian (Snoopy) "You haven't done it, till you've done it with pointers" \!mcvax\!unido\!ecrcvax\!snoopy /* N.B. valid csh address */
john@hp-pcd.UUCP (john) (09/09/85)
<<<< < < But then he seems peanuts against the leader of the "Oregonian" < Bhagwan sect, who wants to have a different Rolls Royce for < every day of the year. He currently has about 40, I think. < Last I heard it was 96. The sad part is that it only costs $10 a year to register a car in Oregon irregardless of make,model or year. John Eaton !hplabs!hp-pcd!john