[mod.computers.vax] DECnet and avoiding passwords "in the clear"

agw%cpw@COLUMBIA.EDU.UUCP (02/24/87)

Hi all.

One problem with using DECnet COPY, DIR, DEL (etc.) commands is that
they require you to type the password "in the clear", i.e.,

  $ DIR FRED"BILL FOO"DSK7:[BILL.SRC]*.C
  $ COPY FRED"BILL FOO"DSK7:[BILL.SRC]*.C *

etc.  Has anybody figured out a good way around this problem?  

Thanks.

oberman@LLL-ICDC.ARPA.UUCP (02/24/87)

>One problem with using DECnet COPY, DIR, DEL (etc.) commands is that they
>require you to type the password "in the clear", i.e., 
>
>  $ DIR FRED"BILL FOO"DSK7:[BILL.SRC]*.C
>  $ COPY FRED"BILL FOO"DSK7:[BILL.SRC]*.C *
>
>etc.  Has anybody figured out a good way around this problem?  


The proper way around this is the use of PROXY DECnet accounts. They may
be set up as wildcards from one system to another if the systems have a
common user base, or for individual users if not.

						R. Kevin Oberman
						LLNL
						arpa: oberman@lll-icdc.arpa
						(415) 455-4654
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agw%cpw@COLUMBIA.EDU.UUCP (02/24/87)

Hi all.

Earlier today, I posted the following ...

> One problem with using DECnet COPY, DIR, DEL (etc.) commands is that
> they require you to type the password "in the clear", i.e.,
> 
>   $ DIR FRED"BILL FOO"DSK7:[BILL.SRC]*.C
>   $ COPY FRED"BILL FOO"DSK7:[BILL.SRC]*.C *
> 
> etc.  Has anybody figured out a good way around this problem?  

I have received a number of replies, most of which can be classified
as follows:

	(1) Prompt from input to store things permanently into a symbol.

	(2) Use proxy accts.

I'll get our systems manager to check out number (2), since I don't
know much about it.

As far as number (1) is concerned: I'm a little reluctant to try this,
since a snoopy person walking up to your terminal while you're away
and typing a SHOW SYMBOL can cause a lot of havoc.

Thanks.