okamoto@ucbvax.ARPA (Jeff Okamoto) (08/26/85)
> before the Puppeteers sold the Hyperdrive to Homo Sap... quite a while later
Sorry, Peter, but the Outsiders did the actual selling of Quantum 1 hyperdrive
to us. The puppeteers used a starseed lure on We Made It's sun to send an
Outsider ship to We Made It.
Now, for a list of Known Space Novels (in no particular order):
Ringworld
The Ringworld Engineers
A Gift from Earth
The Long ARM of Gil Hamilton
Tales of Known Space
World of Ptaavs
Protector
Down in Flames :-)
The New Number Who,
Jeff Okamoto
okamoto@BERKELEY.EDU
..!ucbvax!okamotojoel@peora.UUCP (Joel Upchurch) (08/28/85)
Don't forget 'Neutron Star'.
jam@dcl-cs.UUCP (John A. Mariani) (09/03/85)
In article <10206@ucbvax.ARPA> okamoto@ucbvax.ARPA (Jeff Okamoto) writes: >Now, for a list of Known Space Novels (in no particular order): > Ringworld > The Ringworld Engineers > A Gift from Earth > The Long ARM of Gil Hamilton > Tales of Known Space > World of Ptaavs > Protector > Down in Flames :-) You seem to have missed out "Neutron Star" -- a collection of short stories. Maybe that was only released in the UK though. The Niven discussions have been very entertaining, and I'd like to amplify what earlier posters have said. It would seem Niven has "painted himself into a corner". He is now rigidly restrained in his further stories by the Known Space framework -- and he probably feels it is now such a complex structure he can't work with any freedom within it. I suppose this is the ultimate fate awaiting anyone who builds such a "Future History". I'll get out of your way now .. thanks for reading .. -- UUCP: ...!seismo!mcvax!ukc!dcl-cs!jam DARPA: jam%lancs.comp@ucl-cs | Post: University of Lancaster, JANET: jam@uk.ac.lancs.comp | Department of Computing, Phone: +44 524 65201 ext 4467 | Bailrigg, Lancaster, LA1 4YR, UK.
scott@hou2g.UUCP (Racer X) (09/06/85)
Seems to me this "Niven has painted himself into a corner" argument is a crock, at least from Niven's point of view. Why can't he write a novel or some short stories occuring during, say, the first Man/Kzin war? What about some new Gil Hamilton stories? I'm sure these would be well received. Certainly, he's probably constrained from furthering the history and mythos of Known Space, but I hardly think this prevents him from writing about it entirely. I heard from a friend of a friend that talked to Niven at a convention. (Can YOU say "rumor"? I knew you could.) He said the reason he has collaborated so much in recent years is that he has been/is in a "dry" period, ideawise. However, this was before "Integral Trees" which, if nothing else, had some interesting ideas... Scott J. Berry ihnp4!hou2g!scott
michaelm@3comvax.UUCP (Michael McNeil) (09/11/85)
[Yum, yum!] > [Scott J. Berry] > Seems to me this "Niven has painted himself into a > corner" argument is a crock, at least from Niven's > point of view. Why can't he write a novel or some > short stories occuring during, say, the first Man/Kzin > war? What about some new Gil Hamilton stories? I'm > sure these would be well received. > > Certainly, he's probably constrained from furthering > the history and mythos of Known Space, but I hardly > think this prevents him from writing about it entirely. I agree he probably could, but I suspect he's bored with it. > I heard from a friend of a friend that talked to Niven > at a convention. (Can YOU say "rumor"? I knew you could.) > He said the reason he has collaborated so much in recent > years is that he has been/is in a "dry" period, ideawise. > However, this was before "Integral Trees" which, if nothing > else, had some interesting ideas... *Integral Trees* certainly is interesting! (``Dry period,'' indeed!) I think the ``world'' of *Integral Trees* is at least as good a world-creation idea as *Ringwood* -- particularly since *Integral Trees* was a *natural* rather than constructed feature (and might even exist somewhere). I talked to Larry Niven at WesterCon this last July, and he said that he was, at that time, eleven chapters into a sequel to *Integral Trees*! (He said he was rewriting some of the earlier chapters to better fill out the civilization he was developing.) I'm certainly looking forward to it! The other novel which is out so far in Niven's new universe of the State is *A World Out of Time* -- which I also found very enjoyable. As a vision of what might happen on Earth over the next few *millions* of years, it was fascinating! ---------------- Michael McNeil 3Com Corporation (415) 960-9367 ..!ucbvax!hplabs!oliveb!3comvax!michaelm