Info-IBMPC@C.ISI.EDU.UUCP (04/05/87)
Info-IBMPC Digest Saturday, 4 April 1987 Volume 6 : Issue 23 This Week's Editor: Billy Brackenridge Today's Topics: Statistics Package Migrated from Unix Cursor control methods Keyboard Reassignment with ANSI.SYS Brown Bag Spelling Checker (2 Msgs) Zenith Z-248 (3 Msgs) Freemacs DOS 3.x on Columbia (2 Msgs) Micro Spell from Trigram Systems Int 21H 0AH Read from Keyboard Clobbers AL under DOS 3.2 CMS "DIR" command TIMER.COM Text Files to Laserwriter Sources in Turbo Pascal DOS BACKUP PROBLEM EGA+ and AUTOCAD VM/CMS Stuff for PC Further AppleTalk card/driver Trivia PC JOVE Russian Word Processor (2 Msgs) VGA SURFMODL 1.1 Source Code Available Some Answers to Question on IBM New Products Slowing Autorepeat on Keyboard Info-IBM Coverage & the New PC Order Numbers for Technical Reference Manuals Today's Queries: DOS 3.2 COPY PROBLEM NEC 8087 Chip Rumors Bar Code Package Taking over the IBM-AT bus How do I Disable Control C ? Control P ? IBM PC Kermit on the New IBM Personal System/2 Series? WANG PLOTTER SIMPLEX and Linear Programming INFO-IBMPC BBS Phone Numbers: (213)827-2635 (213)827-2515 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 31 Mar 87 23:44:00 EST From: "TENNEY, RICHARD" <tenney@icst-ecf> Subject: Statistics Package Migrated from Unix To: "lisse%dacth51.bitnet" <lisse%dacth51.bitnet@wiscvm.wisc.edu> It is quite likely that the package you read about is the one written by Gary Perlman, now called |STAT. The program was originally written at UCSD on a Unix system. He has now written versions that run under Unix and under MS-DOS. You can obtain them directly from him. I'll copy the Availability and Distribution paragraph from the manual. From the tone, you may get the impression that a lot of people have been difficult to deal with. I don't know. Anyway, here is the text (apologies for typos): Carefully read the instructions below. Orders not following them may be returned or even discarded. All prices include delivery and should be prepaid to G. Perlman. Checks must be in US funds, drawn on a US bank. Orders that demand any terms or conditions other than those in this notice may be returned or discarded. Orders must include a delivery mailing label acceptable to the post office, and international orders must include the country name on the label. UNIX version of |STAT: $20 Contents: Programs (C language) & Online Manual Entries Format: half inch 9 track mag tape, 1600 bpi tar format MSDOS Version of |STAT: $15 Contents: Preformatted Manuals and Executables Format: 2S/2D MSDOS 5.25 inch floppy diskettes Handbook: $10 Contents: Examples, Reference Materials, CALC & DM Manuals, Manual Entries Format: Typeset Manual (over 100 pages) Gary Perlman is currently at the Wang Institute School of Information Technology Tyng Road Tyngsboro, MA 01879 USA I haven't used the latest versions of these programs, but my wife, a research psychologist, loves the ones we've had for the last several years. - Richard Tenney TENNEY@ICST-ECF rlt%umb.umb.edu@relay.cs.net ...seismo!harvard!umb!rlt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Mar 87 19:23:08 PST From: Primixsys!bagpiper@csvax.caltech.edu Subject: Cursor control methods A week ago I wrote an answer to a question by Mr. Ron Gershon about cursor control. I advised Ron to call a BIOS routine and Mr. DiPalma advised Ron to use ANSI.SYS. I don't want to sound hypocritical but I don't agree with either answer now. My answer constricts a program that uses it to run on a IBM PC/XT/AT or a very true blue compatible. It would have been far better if I had advised Ron to call a MS-Dos routine, not one buried in some piece hardware. *But* I don't know of a MS-Dos cursor routine (I mean a routine that will place the cursor at any character position.) Mr. DiPalma's advice sounds as bad to me but in a different way. If an inexperienced user is involved and he is required to set up the software, the process of modifying his config.sys and why is often very confusing. This, along with the fact that ansi.sys is *SLOW*, makes it an unacceptable alternative to me. My question: What is the Proper way to position the cursor while keeping the method as MS-Dos compatible as possible and as fast as possible? Mike Hunter ARPA: cit-vax!oxy!bagpiper [This could become a religious debate. There are two major religions and many minor heresies. The Un*x belief system holds that the 8 bit byte is Holy Tuple and that it was meant to flow through pipes. This religion had its genesis at MIT (1) and achieved its highest form of purity in the arcane cult of CURSES. Much diluted by time that religion is perpetuated by those who worship at the alter of ANSI.SYS. The original idea of computers was that they were calculation engines. A major reformation occurred at Xerox Parc when Alan Kay and friends advanced the thesis that the purpose of computers was to present information to humans. It was only Natural Law that any software that got between hardware and the human was an anathema. The hardware was software and the screen was memory. The humans saw it and it was good. The Icon was in. Along came Don Estridge and the boys from Boca. Being good salesmen they didn't care much for religious purity. The golden rule of IBM salesmanship is don't offend anybody; sell to everybody -- or "you can have it your way". (1) In those days they worshiped many machines. Those were the days of Multics K&R refined this to the true faith of Uni*s (2) and the PDP-11 became the arc of the holy pipe. (2) Un*x is never spelled out. There are many variations but never is "C" allowed without surrounding "". IBM beat us to the April Fool's joke. I had to do something... -wab] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Apr 87 10:02 CET From: Ralf D. Kloth <ZRKL001%DTUZDV1.bitnet@BERKELEY.EDU> Subject: Keyboard Reassignment with ANSI.SYS The keyboard reassignments mentioned in V06 N20 and described in the DOS manuals work well. Just write the ESC-sequences into a file, do a TYPE and - voila, then it works. The changes are present when you are on the DOS command line. They also work when you use EDLIN as your favorite editor. However, the reassignments will not work under software which obviously bypasses ANSI, like MicroSoft WORD, or the editor of TURBO Pascal. I once checked this also with the KERMIT terminal emulator, and found the same, if I remember correctly. A better way to reassign the keyboard would be to write an own resident ASM program to trap the keyboard INT 9 and intercept the scan codes coming from ports 60/61, ... just like the KEYB%%.COM. A much easier way is to get a disk-editor (NORTON, etc) or DEBUG and write the desired changes directly into the KEYB%%.COM keyboard handler. In my MS-DOS 3.1 KEYBGR.COM the keydefinitions start around offset 1300H and these patches work perfectly ... Ralf D. Kloth, ZRKL001@DTUZDV1.BITNET Acknowledge-To: Ralf D. Kloth <ZRKL001@DTUZDV1> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 87 14:04:49 CST From: "Mike McClaskey" <C443170%UMCVMB.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu> Subject: Brown Bag Spelling Checker In response to Brent Baccala's note about Brown Bag's Word Processor and spell checker, I'm not sure most users realize that the major kernel of that program is Bob Wallace's (i.e. Quicksoft's) PC-Write, around v. 2.6. Additionally, in the latest (April 28) issue of PC MAGAZINE, there's a news item to the effect that Brown Bag has stopped distribution of that product, although they still provide technical support; now they direct all orders back to Quicksoft. For my money, PC-Write is much the better purchase (that is, if you decide to pay for it--and you should). The shareware approach provides a degree of minor bug-fix releases and a speed of major revisions that no large commercial company can match. In the latest revision to 2.7, the spelling checker is bigger than Brown Bag's, merge is supported, and laser printing is provided pretty well for. It's a fine product. (And, of course, I have nothing to do with Quicksoft.) Needless to say, it's available EVERYWHERE, SIMTEL, the major online services, BBS's, etc. There's another interesting new spelling product readers might be interested in--made by Microlytics (Word Finder fame) and sold by Xerox, it's a box called PC Type Right that plugs in between the keyboard and computer and provides an online 100,000 dictionary ala Turbo Lightning that beeps errors as they occur. See the new PC MAGAZINE (aforementioned) for a review. Lists at 199.95 (gulp!). And no, I don't work for Xerox either. ------------------------------ Date: 1 Apr 87 10:16:00 EST From: "V703::S_DANIELS" <s_daniels%v703.decnet@nusc> Subject: Brown Bag Spelling Checker Be advised that the "BROWN BAG WP" for $130 is really a commercial release of PC-WRITE version 2.6, with someone else's spell checker. PCW ver 2.7x has its own spell checker. It works in RAM, checking as you go. I haven't used the spell part much, but I like pcw itself for its speed and flexibility. Cost is $89 for a complete, registered version including manual, help cards, and support; or $15 for just the disks with program, brief tutorial, and user's guide (NOT the 33-+ pg manual). I understand SIMTEL20 has v 2.71, which I believe is the latest. My advice: Try pcw for free. Then buy it. (In fact that is Quciksoft's 'logo'). INFO? QUICKSOFT (206) 282-0452 They take VISA *** usual disclaimers, blah, blah, blah *** Scott Daniels/NUSC-NLL ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Apr 87 07:13:15-1000 From: Kent K. Kuriyama <kent%humu@nosc.mil> Subject: Zenith Z-248 We have 4 Z-248's and have found them to work quite well. Thus far only one program (The CADVANCE CAD system) doesn't run correctly due to a problem in Zenith's BIOS. The DOD gets these machines for a song - The configuration you mentioned cost us $1,600. The hard disks on these machines is slow - 85 ms. For $1,600 I think I can live with it. Kent Kuriyama Naval Ocean Systems Center Hawaii Laboratory <kent@nosc.mil> ------------------------------ Date: 1 Apr 87 10:58:00 EST From: "V703::S_DANIELS" <s_daniels%v703.decnet@nusc> Subject: Zenith Z-248 OK, I've used a Z248 here at work the last 3 months, so here's some off-the-cuff observations: 1. hard disk (20 MB) is either Tandon or MinScribe (3-1/2"). Neither was very fast. CORE's HD Performance test gave the Miniscribe a 71 ms avg seek time, with a 2.241 Performance Index (compare that to my PC's Microsci, with a 80+ ms, 1.2 rating). 2. Norton SysInfo gives it a 7.7 rating - meaning it runs Norton's silly benchmark that many times faster than a PC. But my turbo XT with a NEC V20 gives a 3.3 rating! 3. More realistically, PC Mag's Benchmarks on CPU speed rate the Z as fast as an 8 MHZ AT. [One thing I noticed- PC Mag's tests of Extended memory clocked it at 50% (half) of a comparable Intel Aboveboard. Why, I don't know.] Have not tried it yet with EMS memory. 4. It would not run my PC's AST SIXPAK PREMIUM EEMS Board - parity errors. 5. It comes with 1 serial, 2 parallel, and a really goofy "2nd" com port configured as COM3, but only accessible if you run certain terminal sw, e.g one that emulates a Sperry UTS 40 terminal. That sw is available from the same source (Gov't contract) as the machine itself. NOTE: To make the system work with both a mouse and on our network, I had to get a separate i/o card (I used a 0K ram Six Pak, just for the serial port). 6. Our system comes with 1.1 mb extended RAM, and 640 k conventional RAM. I also got the additional RAM board, so I have 2.6 mb extended. I do miss the EMS memory (e.g for large Lotus sheets), so I plan on buying an EMS board (RAMPAGE Premium ?) 7. only has slots for 2 floppies. So i have 1-360K (for disk exchange with work mates) and 1-1.2MB (for easy backups). But disk copies are a pain without a 2nd 360K, so I have to do disk swapping. I guess what I really would like is 2-360K and 1 or 2-1.2MB (GREEDY!) 8. The hd actually sits inside the machine- there is a small light on the front panel to indicate accesses. Chassis has room for a second hd; you must buy the additional required signal cable for this 2nd drive. 9. The machine is big! Much bigger than my old PC. 10. No HW reset switch. I really miss that. I often have to recycle power when system hangs up during development. 11. system is fast but could be faster with a better hd 12. system only runs @ 8 MHZ no slow down to emulate the old AT. Could be a problem with some sw. 13. BUT I haven't found any sw that does not run. I haven't been able to get DESQVIEW running, but the copy I have won't run on my PC either. 14. Built in ROM debugger not that useful to me. Hardly ever helps me out of a system lock up, e.g when system locks up, you can't engage the debugger with the required CTL-ALT-RETURN combination. 15. MSDOS 3.1 works fine, no problems. Heard that v 3.2 erases the hd if you run CHKDSK/F !!! 16. noise? seems fairly quiet to me, but I definitely can hear the fan. 17.price? govt price is $1500 for 1.1 MB, 1 floppy, EGA card. Add $350 for 20 mb hd, $300 for Zenith EGA monitor; $240 for the 1.5 MB expansion ram card. 80287 is $140. 18. Oh, their EGA will not work in a PC! Also, I could not get it to run in their Herc mode. It appears to be a straight EGA, unlike the newer kinds. I took mine out and put in an ATI EGA WONDER, and am using the NEC MULTISYNCH great colors, works all modes (Herc included) on the one screen. NOTE: NSI SMART EGA card would not run perhaps due to the clock speed? QUESTIONS: NARDAC,NORFOLK provides support for Gov't users. [If you qualify, you should be able to get their number.] DISCLAIMERS: These are my own evaluations and opinions, not of our company. I have no connection with Zenith or its vendors. Scott Daniels. ------------------------------ Date: 2 Apr 87 08:18:00 EST From: "NRL::SWEENEY" <sweeney%nrl.decnet@nrl.arpa> Subject: Zenith Z-248 I have had a Z241 at home for about 4 months now. The system is a similar configuration to what you are considering, i.e. 20 MB, 640K, and EGA. In addition, I have an 80287. It's my 4th system at home, the other PC compatible is a Leading Edge M. At work I use a Compaq plus, and an IBM AT. I use the machines primarily for graphics, data acquisition, and number crunching. Most of the codes I work with are RM FORTRAN V2.1 and IBM MASM V2. I like the Zenith better than the other machines. I have some complaints about it, and have heard some bad things second and third hand, which I'll relay. Good Points:. 1. The 6 MHz machine is a full 30% faster than the IBM AT. The expanded bus accounts for the speed up. 2. The computer is an excellent development machine. There is a resident operating system and debugger. The debugger is somewhat protected. Rather than going belly-up all the time, a run-away program often invokes the debugger. One can also break out of a program most of the time from the keyboard. 3. The Technical manual and Dos manuals are excellent. They actually give the buyer of the machine credit for brains. The manuals go from introduction to fine detail in an orderly fashion. They are the easiest to read that I've seen. 4. Speed: the 80287 is not handicapped. It runs at the same speed as the CPU. I've timed a 4000 line FORTRAN number cruncher at half the speed of a VAX 750 with FPA, FORTRAN V4.5, and 1 user (me). 5. Compatibility: No problems encountered, but I don't run everything. The Leading Edge computers models M and MH have problems with the math coprocessor, i.e., RM FORTRAN V1 and Supercalc V3r2 refuse to use them. The problem is with programs that do not use the standard INTEL method for detecting the chip. The Zenith does NOT have this problem. 6. The CPU card is replaceable. Bad Points. 1. The first machine that I got was very noisy. The fan and disk were louder than the Leading Edge M, which is like a Hoover. I was given a new machine without having to raise my voice. 2. I have heard that the heavily discounted machines have slow hard disks. Make sure you get something with a fast AT disk. 3. I have only had an overheating problem when I ran the machine in a warm room ( 80F+) with a 150 Watt light on the same table as the computer. I rearranged furniture and didn't let the room get above 75. If you are going to load up the machine, I think a second fan can be installed. The machine is quiet, the cooling is adequate, but it is not as cool as the Leading Edge. 4. I have heard third hand that the removable disks are troublesome. Good Luck, Brian Sweeney. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Apr 87 10:41:08 EST From: Russell Nelson <bh01%CLUTX.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu> Subject: Freemacs I have written a true, extensible emacs for MS-DOS. It's written in 8086 assembly, so don't think about porting it. Freemacs is a true Emacs editor. The .exe file is only about 16K, just enough for a screen and buffer handler and a programming language, MINT. Freemacs is largely written in MINT, and so is easy to modify. MINT is not TRAC, in case you were wondering what MINT stood for. This is the first off-campus release of Freemacs, and so is probably buggy. I don't know of any bugs, of course, otherwise I'd fix them and they wouldn't be bugs anymore. You may freely copy this software. I only ask that you send improvements back to me for incorporation into the package for the rest of us. The source is available from one or more of the following sources: WFM BBS: (315)265-8207 Vernon Buerg BBS: (415)994-2944 Simtel20: Internet: FTP if possible else send "help" to "archive-request@simtel20.arpa" !! Not on Simtel20 yet !! GENIE General Electric's Information Exchange Send $10 (copying fee) to the author. This will assure you of the latest version. Addresses, electronic and otherwise: Author: Russell Nelson BITnet: bh01@clutx GEnie: bh01 InterNet: bh01@clutx.clarkson.edu (eventually) uucp: decvax!sii!trixie!sandbox!clutx!bh01 uucp: {mcnc, rti-sel, ncsu, ripcs, bcopen, gould}!clutx!bh01 Snail: 11 Grant St., Potsdam, NY 13676 ------------------------------ From: <evwong@ATHENA.MIT.EDU> To: info-ibmpc@c.isi.edu Subject: DOS 3.2 on Columbia PCs Date: Wed, 01 Apr 87 22:08:39 EST Thanks to all who responded! From you, I have found that I should talk to Godfather's Computer who bought out Columbia some years back and get a new ROM BIOS to support the DOS 3.2 and the EGA, while I'm at it. They are advertised in the COMPUTER SHOPPER. I don't have their address or phone with me at the moment, sorry. Also, I got an interesting letter about a 3.1 prob/fix(?) for the Columbia. That is reproduced below. >Date: Mon, 30 Mar 87 12:52:35 PST >From: Jim Anderson <bilbo.jta@CS.UCLA.EDU> >Subject: DOS 3.x on Columbia There is probably a trick involved in getting DOS 3.1 to work on your Columbia. If you try booting 3.1 and end up getting some divide faults, here's the problem: DOS 3.1 makes bios calls to read the AT real time clock. It expects to see carry set if there is no real time clock. Unfortunately, the Columbia bios thinks any INT 1A function code that it does not understand is "set time of day". It sets the time of day to some garbage value which happens to be large, and later on an attempt to read the time results in a divide fault. Here's the fix: Fix the bios time of day function and blow new PROMs, or search through IBMBIO.COM for CD 1A's (INT 1A instructions) and bypass any with function codes greater than 2. I've never tried to boot 3.2 on my Columbia. Unless you have some particular need for 3.2, use 3.1. Good Luck! Anyway, thanks muchly to all. And to all a good night. Eric ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 87 00:16 EST From: Hess@MIT-MULTICS.ARPA Subject: Micro Spell from Trigram Systems Micro Spell Trigram Systems is in Pittsburgh, and they're in the phone book, too. Their address is on "Bayard Way", perhaps? It has 60,000 words in it (approx.) but a few of them are a little strange, e.g. "fancinesses", which is a word, but who wants it -- I'd rather have obscura like "surcoat", which is in the Houghton-Mifflin dictionaries. *BUT* the number of words isn't the biggest issue here: *SPEED* is! H-M's speller is slow. Borland's current Lightning is slower. And MicroSpell is the fastest I've seen, with The Word Plus (==MS-Word's speller) in the same speed range, but working on a totally different principle (sort all the words first). Overall, it's the best I've used in terms of day-to-day work; I can add words to the dictionary if I need them, but I can't make any of the others run faster! And the other 5 I tried are useless if I don't use them because they take so long... Brian [They have very good prices for Universities. As for strange words: The dictionary I use for INFO-IBMPC has some very strange words... -wab] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 87 01:42:22 EST From: ALBERS <ealbers@vax1.acs.udel.edu> Subject: Int 21H 0AH Read from Keyboard Clobbers AL under DOS 3.2 When writing a program in assembly the other day I noticed that there is a rather large change in version 3.2 of MSDOS from 3.1. When using int 21h function 0ah (get string from kb) the register al is changed in version 3.2 but NOT in 3.1 and before, this has caused a few of my programs to suddenly have problems, has anyone heard about any other bugs which may be lurking in the function calls that I haven't found yet?? ealbers@vax1.acs.udel.edu [If I remember correctly it is fair game for DOS calls to clobber AL for any call. Frequently AL returns some sort of return code. I think Microsoft gave fair warning on this one. -wab] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 87 17:54 O From: "Gershon Kunin" <P82041%BARILAN.BITNET@BERKELEY.EDU> Subject: CMS "DIR" command For PC users working in CMS, the directory commands can become a bit confusing. So here's a neat little REXX program called DIR EXEC that emulates the MS-DOS DIR command. Comments welcome. Gershon Kunin BITNET: P82041@BARILAN -------------------------- CUT HERE ---------------------------------- /*************************************************/ /* FOR THOSE WORKING IN CMS AND WHO ARE */ /* STILL USED TO MS-DOS - HERE'S THE DIR */ /* COMMAND ! */ /* */ /* WRITTEN BY: GERSHON KUNIN */ /* BITNET : P82041@BARILVM */ /* DATE : APRIL 2, 1987 */ /*************************************************/ ARG A1 . IF A1=' ' THEN DO FILENAME='*' EXT='*' DRIVE='A' CALL DOIT END A1=TRANSLATE(A1, '%', '?') IF SUBSTR(A1, 2, 1)=':' THEN DO DRIVE=SUBSTR(A1,1,1) L=LENGTH(A1) IF L=2 THEN DO FILENAME='*' EXT='*' CALL DOIT END N=INDEX(A1, '.') IF N>0 THEN DO FILENAME=SUBSTR(A1, 3, N-3) EXT=SUBSTR(A1, N+1) CALL DOIT END ELSE DO FILENAME=SUBSTR(A1, 3) EXT='*' CALL DOIT END END DRIVE='A' L=LENGTH(A1) N=INDEX(A1, '.') IF N>0 THEN DO FILENAME=SUBSTR(A1, 1, N-1) EXT=SUBSTR(A1, N+1) CALL DOIT END ELSE DO FILENAME=A1 EXT='*' CALL DOIT END DOIT: 'FILELIST' FILENAME EXT DRIVE -------------------------- CUT HERE ---------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 2 Apr 87 10:39:16 PST (Thursday) From: Bicer.ES@Xerox.COM Subject: TIMER.COM Does anyone have the Taiwanese Multi I/O Card with floppy controller, parallel printer port, 2 serial ports, battery backed up clock/calendar and game adapter? There doesn't seem to be a brand name on the manual, which has a shiny grey cover. The name MUSTEK is printed at the back of the manual. The board was purchased from MEGATECH. I am looking for the software which drives the clock/calendar, TIMER.COM. Apparently there is another manual which explains how to access the device, but I don't have it. I know this is a long shot, but if anyone out there has any information on this, I will really appreciate if you could contact me. Thanks in advance, Jack Bicer Bicer.ES@Xerox.COM [Try software from some real American cards. The design is probably an exact rip off of an AST or Quadram card. -wab] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 87 18:13:06 EST From: Edward_Vielmetti@um.cc.umich.edu To: jeff%acorn@oak.lcs.mit.edu Subject: Text Files to Laserwriter Sources in Turbo Pascal Jeff, Here's a program to get regular text files to print out on a Laserwriter. It's written in Turbo Pascal by Nathan Liskov (sorry, I don't have a net address for him) and looks to do pretty much what you wanted it to do from your posting to the info-ibmpc digest. I haven't had an opportunity to use this myself, so I can't guarantee your success with it. Edward Vielmetti, U-M Computing Center Microgroup, Ann Arbor MI 48109 emv@um.cc.umich.edu or emv@pepe.cc.umich.edu [PSTSCRPT.PAS has been added to the info-ibmpc lending library. -wab] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 87 16:23 PST From: <DBUERGER%SCU.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu> Subject: DOS BACKUP PROBLEM I have a user experiencing a strange problem with DOS 2.0 & 2.1 BACKUP command. He has an IBM XT, 815 files in 9,584,640 bytes of space (851,968 are free), and CHKDSK/F yields no lost clusters, etc. When he tries to backup either the entire disk to A or just a directory to A, the standard "Insert backup diskette 01 in drive A: etc." pops up, but the software does not pause the operation. Instead it zips right into the backup procedure, backing up to "diskette 00" and yields the message, "Warning! No files were found to back up." It then dumps a bunch of extended characters on the screen and the system locks up. By the way, the diskettes have been pre-formatted before the backup is attempted. Does anyone have an inkling as to what is happening here? Please respond to me directly. If there is a solution which looks of interest, I'll summarize for the net. Thanks. David J. Buerger Santa Clara University (408) 554-4039 bitnet: dbuerger@SCU arpa: dbuerger%scu.bitnet@WISCVM.WISC.EDU uucp: ...!psuvax1!scu.bitnet!dbuerger ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 87 21:54:38 EST From: Jim Tedeschi <JTT58%ALBNYVM1.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu> Subject: EGA+ and AUTOCAD To: Info-IBMPC <INFO-IBMPC@C.ISI.EDU> Autocad, of course, wants a Hercules Graphics Card. Unfortunately (at least for this user) I have a QUAD EGA+ card (w/NEC Monitor). Is there some way I can use Autocad with this equipment. Appreciate any tips, tricks, etc. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Apr 87 22:29:37 CST From: "Mike McClaskey" <C443170%UMCVMB.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu> Subject: VM/CMS Stuff for PC A quick request for an overview of products: just what is available in terms of CMS-like software for the PC (i.e. XEDIT clones, CMS interface, etc.)? I know about Mansfield's PERSONAL REXX and KEDIT, but does anyone have first hand experience with them? How about VM Labs' PERSONAL VM? Also, could someone in the know provide this forum with a quick survey of what's available along these lines in public domain/shareware? By the way, IBM Personally Developed Software has an XEDIT clone for cheap, but it is severely limited in its file size capacity. Any other sources of software or personal experience with what I've mentioned will be much appreciated. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 87 23:39 EST From: Hess@MIT-MULTICS.ARPA Subject: Further AppleTalk card/driver Trivia Turns out that when using the Apple/Tangent software, in order to get the LW.ENV file (which stores the LaserWriter's name and the zone) to be found, it must *BOTH* be in a directory whose name is "LWDIR", *AND* be on the DOS PATH. So the proper hack to the software is either to find the comparison to the string "lwdir" and kill it, or change that string to match the directory which you usually keep your path-found items, e.g. "\ETC". Further, it seems that in theory you can write your own software to unload the driver, if you restore all the hooks it took over. But you're on your own; if I make one, I'll post it. Guess if I do that I can post the hacks to get rid of that awful screen- clearing as well. Brian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Apr 87 22:04:58 EST From: Stephan A Cooper <ucbcad!ames!seismo!mimsy!jhunix!ins_asac@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Subject: PC JOVE Hi. I sent a request for info out a while ago about JOVE on the PC (clones). In specific reference was the use of a jove.rc file. It seems my version doesn't see, doesn't look for, in any case, it doesn't NOTICE, my jove.rc file. Can some one out there help with this? No, I do not know what version I've got, and I don't have the sources. I couldn't compile them even if I had them. Maybe some one could mail me a copy the DOES use a jove.rc file? (It is public domain isn't it, so I'm okay in asking?) Thanks in advance, Steve Cooper Johns Hopkins University ...!seismo!umcp-cs!jhunix!ins_asac jhunix!ins_asac@CSNET ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 87 09:21:51 +0200 From: Tor Onshus <tor%regtek.unit.uninett@NTA-VAX.ARPA> Subject: Russian Word Processor I will recommend the T3 word processor for writing Cyrillic. I have not used cyrillic, but just looked at the possible keyboard definitions available. I use T3 to write scientific papers, where quite a lot of equations are necessary. You see the text on the screen as it appears on the printer!!! I run on an PC/AT with EGA and FX80 compatible printer and has also used it with an HP Laserjet+. (also possible with other printers and PC's) Contact: TCI Software Reasearch 1190B Foster Road Las Crues, NM 88001 USA (505)522 4600 (800)874 2383 Telex: 317629 ---------- Tor ------------------------------ From: "Mark F. Haven" <MHQ%NIHCU.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu> Date: Fri, 03 Apr 87 10:51:59 EST Subject: Russian Word Processor In response to recent inquiries on Russian language word processing the following may be of interest: A survey of Russian word processors has recently been done. You can get information on it (I think it's still in draft phase) by writing to: Jonathan Sanders Harriman Institute Columbia University 420 West 118th Street NY, NY 10027 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 87 04:40:56 EST From: Russell Nelson <bh01%CLUTX.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu> Subject: VGA Don't buy a color monitor without seeing Zenith's new FTM color monitor. By all reports, the dot pitch is on the order of .01mm, and that's no typo. The monitor will obviously cost more, but the reported premium is only $100. VGA: Apparently the VGA doesn't do sync switching. The monitor (yes, your new EGA monitor is already obsolete) runs at 31 Khz. To get the CGA resolution, scan lines are doubled to get a 640 x 400 screen, with 80 lines blanked at the bottom. For EGA resolution, the bottom 130 scan lines are blanked. Of course, anyone who hasn't put a 24 Mhz xtal on their EGA is sick in the head, so we're already running with 480 scan lines, aren't we? In other words, the VGA is unimpressive. IBM=Inferior But Marketable. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 87 10:55:24 EST From: Kenneth Van Camp -FSAC- <kvancamp@ARDEC.ARPA> Subject: SURFMODL 1.1 Source Code Available I have uploaded the entire source code for SURFMODL 1.1 to the INFO-IBMPC library. Because of the number of files involved (over 70), I have concatenated all the files together into a single large file, with separators between the files that are similar to the "digest" form of the info-ibmpc mailing list. I am also providing a separate program, UNDIGEST.PAS, which is a Turbo Pascal program to undigest the SURFMODL.DIG file and instantly give all the individual files their proper names. To get the entire source to SURFMODL 1.1 from the USC-ISIB system, get the files UNDIGEST.PAS (about 3K) and SURFMODL.DIG (about 329K) from the <INFO-IBMPC> directory. The first 100 lines (or so) of SURFMODL.DIG contain instructions for undigestification (or you can probably figure it out by looking at UNDIGEST.PAS). Here's the blurb on the new release: SURFACE (ALIAS SOLIDS) MODELING ON THE PC A new version of SURFMODL, 1.1, is now available for general distribution. There are two major differences between version 1.1 and version 1.0: I have added support for Borland's Turbo Graphix Toolbox, enabling the program to run on the IBM Enhanced Graphix Adapter (EGA), Hercules graphics board, Heath/Zenith Z-100, AT&T 6300, and IBM 3270. The archives at Simtel-20 contain compiled versions for all of these systems, as well as the standard SURFMODL program (which runs on the IBM Color/Graphics Adapter (CGA) and Sanyo MBC-55x). All of the Toolbox versions were compiled using the generic MSDOS version of Turbo Pascal, so there is a good chance they will run on any MSDOS system. It should be noted that the Toolbox versions are not thoroughly tested, and should be considered Beta test versions. The second major difference between the 1.1 and 1.0 releases is that I am now releasing the entire source code into the public domain. This is over 60 files, containing over 4000 lines of Turbo Pascal source code. This should hopefully expedite debugging of the Toolbox versions, as well as porting to other systems. There are other minor changes to version 1.1, as well as a massive rewrite of the documentation. SURFMODL is a general-purpose surface modeling program for the IBM PC written entirely in Turbo Pascal. Surface modeling is the science of producing realistic three-dimensional images on a computer display, and is often mistakenly called "solids modeling". This capability has existed on large mainframe and minicomputer work stations for many years. Only recently has it migrated to smaller computers, and the IBM PC is no exception. SURFMODL requires only 256K RAM, runs amazingly fast, and is a general-purpose surface modeler. It creates displays of three-dimensional wire frame images, it removes hidden lines, and it performs shaded surface modeling. Since it is a generalized program, it can be used to view any object from any angle, with single or multiple light sources. It is accompanied by a general-purpose preprocessor. Also included are half a dozen example data files to get you started. Free user registration is also available; read the documentation for details. When used in conjunction with a finite element preprocessor, a special-purpose function generation routine, or PREPROC (the SURFMODL preprocessor), SURFMODL is a complete surface modeling system, capable of constructing models of any variety of objects of virtually unlimited complexity. --Ken Van Camp <kvancamp@ARDEC.ARPA> Army Armament Research Development & Engineering Center SMCAR-FSA-E Building 329 Dover, NJ 07806-5000 (201)724-3334 (AV)880-3334 [SURFMODL.DIG has been added to the info-ibmpc lending library. -wab] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 87 10:37:21 CST From: Peter Wu <pwu@unix.macc.wisc.edu> Subject: Some Answers to Question on IBM New Products The 12" color monitor cost more than the 14" one because it has a much sharper image (smaller pitch). There is a DOS 3.3 Technical Reference Manual. List $75. This may imply new DOS functions. As far as I know, DOS 3.3 is only DOS 3.2 with additional support for the new disks and three new DOS commands. I think it also allows more files to be open at one time. The model 30 uses the old bus and accepts 3 cards (they are placed horizontally in the machine). peter ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Apr 87 14:39:01 ULG From: Andre PIRARD <A-PIRARD%BLIULG12.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu> Subject: Slowing Autorepeat on Keyboard To: PETER%UK.AC.SALFORD.SYSC@ac.uk PC Magazine March 87 p 377 lists ASM source code to disable autorepeat. A straightforward mod could make it slow down. It won't prevent filling the keyboard buffer, but you can flush it. ------------------------------ Date: 3 April 87 09:59-CST From: AYAC071%UTA3081.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu Subject: Info-IBM Coverage & the New PC After listening to what seems to be an infinite number of IBM commercials yesterday & today, and reading the pabulum that passes for technical reporting in the mass media, it was certainly a welcome relief to find the new IBM systems covered so well in this digest. My hats off to those who wrote & edited the reports so the rest of us could actually be well informed. By the way, was there any timetable set for the releases of AIX for the 386 or for OS/2? Bill Douglass AYAC071%UTA3081.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu [Thanks to all those who sent in the info. -wab] ------------------------------ Subject: Order Numbers for Technical Reference Manuals Date: Fri, 03 Apr 87 20:48:15 EST From: Joseph A. Cimmino Jr. <jac@umd5.UMD.EDU> Order numbers for selected technical reference manuals from the 2 April announcement. All of this is culled from the individual announcement letters. No guarantee on the typing. The phone number to order with is (800) IBM-2468. Have VISA or Master Card ready. Place your orders before midnight tonight and receive your free Ginzu Ethernet (whoops! I mean token ring) splicer! Note that there is basically one Tech Ref for the Model 30, one for the Models 50 & 60, and one for the Model 80. The BIOS info seems to be included in the Model 30 Tech Ref, while there is a separate BIOS Tech Ref for the Models 50, 60, & 80. There will also be an update to the high end Model 80. Model Item Order # Price Availability Model 30 Technical Reference Manual S68X-2201 $ 75 Apr 87 720kb/1.44mb Diskette Drive S68X-2225 $ 6 Fixed Disk Drive S68X-2205 $ 6 Speech Adapter S68X-2207 $ 13 Mouse S68X-2229 $ 6 Model 50 & 60 Technical Reference (system) S68X-2224 $125 Apr 87 Technical Reference (bios) S68X-2260 $ 75 20MB Fixed Disk Drive S68X-2219 $ 10 44MB Fixed Disk Drive S68X-2233 $ 6 70MB Fixed Disk Drive S68X-2235 $ 6 Fixed Disk Adapter S68X-2226 $ 12 ESDI Adapter/A S68X-2234 $ 12 Multi-Protocol Adapter S68X-2220 $ 12 720kb/1.44mb Diskette Drive S68X-2225 $ 6 Mouse S68X-2229 $ 6 Dual Async Adapter S68X-2217 $ 6 Memory Expansion (80286) S68X-2227 $ 6 Internal Modem/A S68X-2275 $ 6 Binder S229-9606 Model 80 Technical Reference S68X-2256 $125 Jul 87 Technical Reference (bios) S68X-2260 $ 75 /A Memory Option S68X-2257 $ 10 Model 80-111 Technical Reference Update S68X-2285 $125 Oct 87 115MB Fixed Disk S68X-2236 $ 6 Displays 8503, 8512 & 8513 S68X-2206 $ 6 Display 8514 S68X-2214 $ 6 2MB Expanded Memory Adapter 75X1086 $ 8.75 Apr 87 System/2 80286 Expanded Memory Adapter 75X1109 Oct 87 PC Music Feature 75X1048 IBM Token-Ring Network PC Adapter Technical Reference (69X7830) Supplement (order both!) (6466690) IBM PC NETBIOS Application Development Guide (S68X2270) IBM PC Network Adapter Technical Reference (S68X2265) IBM PC Network Adapter II Technical Reference (S68X2223) IBM PC Network Adapter II/A Technical Reference (S68X2263) IBM PC Network Baseband Adapter Technical Reference (S68X2267) IBM PC Network Baseband Adapter/A Technical Reference (S68X2264) ------------------------------ Date: Fri 3 Apr 87 19:07:38-PST From: JOHN R. THOMPSON <WOOLFORD.THOMPSON@BIONET-20.ARPA> Subject: DOS 3.2 COPY PROBLEM I discovered a curious problem with the DOS 3.2 COPY command. Several attempts to copy a 1.3 megabyte file failed to produce a verifiable copy (judged by using the DOS COMP command). The file was correctly copied using PCTOOLS. Is COPY incapable of handling large files???? FYI: System Configuration IBM XT 640K NEC V20 processor Rampage board Hercules monochrome clone board ST238 32MB HD w/ SMS OMTI controller Tests performed with no TSRs present CONFIG.SYS file contents SHELL=C:\COMMAND.COM /E:512 /P DEVICE=C:\DOS\SMSDRVER.COM DEVICE=C:\DOS\REMM.SYS DEVICE=C:\DOS\REX.SYS 50 DEVICE=C:\DOS\FASTDISK.SYS /M=48 /EXTM /DL /DH /SSIZE=512 /DIR=64 DEVICE=C:\DOS\NANSI.SYS STACKS=16,128 BUFFERS=10 FILES=25 LASTDRIVE=D John R. Thompson ------- ------------------------------ From: <evwong@ATHENA.MIT.EDU> Subject: NEC 8087 Chip Rumors Date: Sat, 04 Apr 87 16:12:23 EST There was a rumor about an NEC 8087-type chip, much as the V20 and V30 were 8088 and 8086 "replaceables". From unconfirmed and forgotten sources, I have heard that the chip is substantially cheaper (<<<<$100) and slightly faster. Can any- body tell me if this is pure rumor or if such a creature exists? eric As usual the information, opinions and other miscellany contained herein are my own and do not reflect the economic distress in Sudan [We have heard these rumors too. -wab] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Apr 87 08:39 EST From: "MAJ DAVID C. MCGUFFEY" <McGuffey@DOCKMASTER.ARPA> Subject: Bar Code Package Is there an easily installable bar code package for the IBM-PC? We have a requirement to place bar code strips on several thousand documents and books and keep an inventory of their location. The package would have to generate unique bar codes, which could be voided, but never used again. We would also need a reader which could be attached to a laptop (Zenith 181 would be our choice) and used to inventory the items at other locations. When the inventory is complete, the data would be uploaded to a central site (XT or AT) and preferably managed under dBASE III+. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Dave McGuffey, National Computer Security Center (mcguffey at dockmaster) [We get lots of queries for bar code systems but no responses. Doesn't anyone have a brother in law in the bar code business? "standard disclaimer" of course. -wab] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Apr 87 15:06:55 est From: donham@dsl.cis.upenn.edu (Christopher Donham) Subject: Taking over the IBM-AT bus Hello, I am currently trying to make a board for an IBM-AT which will take over the bus. This new bus master should be able to hold control of the bus indefinitely. Currently I have succeeded in stopping the CPU and memory refresh via the MASTER line, but I fear my methods were somewhat unorthodox. Does anybody know where I can get more information on the accepted method of adding bus masters to the IBM-AT bus? I have already read the IBM-AT Tech. Ref., Intel component handbooks, and other IBM technical documents to get to my current understanding. Thanks, Chris (donham@dsl.cis.upenn.edu) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Apr 87 03:51:22 pst From: ucbcad!ames!styx!lll-lcc!well!nortond@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Daniel A. Norton) Subject: How do I Disable Control C ? Control P ? Am I going crazy? I have tried: 1) Calling the DOS routine (0x33) to disable Control Break. 2) Calling IOCTL to set stdin and stdout to raw mode. 3) Looking through old digests and the KWIC index for help. Neither of these work consistently. If I do both of these and then call EXEC to run a program (system() or spawn()) after having pressed Control C, the "^C" characters pop up and the program dies. I have had better luck with Control P. I call the BIOS to get keystrokes, which apparently keeps them from getting to the printer echo function. If I don't call the BIOS, the IOCTL function works, _except_ for the system reply to Control C ("^C") and bad command lines. In other words, the ^C appears on the printer, and if I enter an invalid command line, "xyz" for example, and press return, the "xyz" with a carriage-return (no line-feed) is echoed to the printer. If I enter a valid command, such as "dir", nothing is echoed to the printer. I am running DOS 3.2 on a Toshiba XT with 640k RAM and a 10MB disk. Any comments and mentions of other experiences would be appreciated. Daniel A. Norton ...!lll-lcc!{lll-crg,ptsfa}!well!nortond ------------------------------ Date: Fri 3 Apr 87 12:26:06-EST From: Frank da Cruz <SY.FDC@CU20B.COLUMBIA.EDU> Subject: IBM PC Kermit on the New IBM Personal System/2 Series? Now that we've seen IBM's announcements for their new line of PCs, is there anyone out there who can say whether IBM PC Kermit (2.29B or earlier) runs on them? If not, what are the symptoms? If so, are there any peculiarities? ------------------------------ Date: 0 0 00:00:00 EST From: "Stu Mitchell" <mitchell@nrl-com> Subject: WANG PLOTTER I recently bought a WANG 2272-2 pen plotter at a local hamfest and I need some hardware documentation. It appears to have a Centronics interface, but I'm not quite sure. When I attach it to the parallel port of my IBM it almost seems to work. The activity light comes on, but it doesn't execute the commands that I've sent it. I would really appreciate it if somebody could tell me what the port is or if they know of a documentation source. Thanks, Stu Mitchell (MITCHELL@NRL-COM) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Apr 87 18:41:08 GMT From: A385%EMDUCM11.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu Subject: SIMPLEX and Linear Programming Does anybody knows any good program or package running on a IBM PC-XT or compatible, about linear programming and specially with the SIMPLEX algorithm?. It doesn't matter public domain or commercial!. A friend of mine needs urgently a powerful implementation for his job!. Thank you, everybody in advance. Javier Lopez Universidad Complutense de Madrid <a385%EMDUCM11.BITNET> ------------------------------ End of Info-IBMPC Digest ************************ -------