SY.CHRISTINE@CU20B.COLUMBIA.EDU (Christine M Gianone) (02/06/86)
Info-Kermit Digest Thu, 6 Feb 1986 Volume 4 : Number 9
Today's Topics:
TSO and VMS Kermit fixes
List of commercial KERMIT products
VMS C-Kermit fails to provide interactive subprocess
7171 Entry for Macintosh (VT100 without highlighting)
Kermit over LAN gateways
MS-Kermit Suggestion
Olivetti Keyboard Layout
Kermit for Victor/Sirius
Re: Strange Cursors
Osborne Exec Kermit
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Date: Wed 5 Feb 86 18:56:38-EST
From: Frank da Cruz <SY.FDC@CU20B.COLUMBIA.EDU>
Subject: TSO and VMS Kermit fixes
Received from Jim Noble, Planning Research Corp, McLean VA -- some fixes
for VMS Kermit and MVS/TSO Kermit. In KER:VMSMIT.BWR and KER:TSOKERM.BWR,
respectively. The TSO fix is allow assembly under IFOX00 (whatever that is).
The VMS changes are mostly bug fixes.
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From gjc@LMI-ANGEL.ARPA Sat Feb 1 09:44:01 1986 remote from angel
Date: Saturday, 1 February 1986, 09:42-EST
From: George Carrette <angel!gjc@LMI-ANGEL.ARPA>
A new kermit is on the way, derived from LMI KERMIT: MACLISP KERMIT for
PDP-10 Maclisp. (Runs under the ITS and TOPS-20 operating systems).
More info to follow. -gjc (GJC-AT-LMI@MIT-MC)
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Date: Sun 2 Feb 86 12:25:30-EST
From: EXT1.FARHAD@CU20B.COLUMBIA.EDU
Subject: List of commercial KERMIT products
I submit the following list of commercially avaiable MS-DOS VT100/TK4010 (&
Macintosh) terminal emulation programs with KERMIT protocol. Nearly all
support also XModem. Not all available features of each product are listed,
and some listed options are $EXTRA. Nearly all are written to run on PC/XT/AT
and compatibles, and some may run additionally specifically on PCjr, Zenith,
Wang, etc. Some support internal modems. One product may zoom/pan, another
may save/restore graphics screens, still another may autoswitch text/graphics
modes, etc.
For more info about any of these products, one should call the vendor(s)
directly, but I would welcome comments from people here at Columbia or
elsewhere who have actually used these or similar products.
- Farhad
Nuclear Science & Engineering
Columbia University, NYC
EXT1.FARHAD@CU20B.COLUMBIA.EDU
Caveat-&-Disclaimer: This short list is based on preliminary data and is
submitted for informational purposes only. It is extracted from recent data
published elsewhere and is by no means claimed to be complete or accurate.
TELEPHONE LIST VENDOR PRODUCT EMULATION(S)
[MS-DOS:]
608-273-6000 $295 Persoft SmarTerm240 VT52/100/125/220/240, and
TK4010/4014
303-690-6279 250 Henson Systems CRTXE VT52/100, 20 others, and
(soon:) TK4010, ReGIS
212-777-6707 249 Coefficient Systems VTerm/4010 VT100, TK4010
617-367-6846 195 Boston Software Works LC-Term VT100
212-777-6707 160 Coefficient Systems VTerm III VT100
615-376-4146 150 Scientific Endeavors VTEK VT52/100, TK4010,4014
604-732-7411 150 KEA Systems ZSTEMpc VT100, TK4010
617-576-2760 124 Mark of the Unicorn PCIntercom VT100
617-659-1571 85 Solution Systems ZAP VT52/100, TK4010
215-664-4914 70 Cheshire Cat Software Zap VT52/100
[Apple Macintosh:]
603--673-8151 $195 White Pine Software Mac240 VT100/220, ReGIS
[Ed. - Kermit is appearing in more and more commercial communications programs,
and soon we'll have quite a few of them with sliding windows too -- Crosstalk
among them. Most of these companies have agreed in writing to comply with the
conditions given in our "Policy on Commercial Use and Distribution of Kermit"
flyer (KER:AAXCOM.DOC), which means that purchasers of these products should be
getting the Kermit component "free".]
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Date: 4 Feb 86 15:08:00 EST
From: "NUNN, JOHN C." <nunn@nbs-vms.ARPA>
Subject: VMS C-Kermit fails to provide interactive subprocess
The VMS implementation of C-Kermit does not provide an interactive
subshell (subprocess for VMS) for the "!" command. This problem can
be corrected by making the changes shown below.
[Ed. - Code omitted, added to KER:CKVKER.BWR.]
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Date: Wed 5 Feb 86 08:24:29-EST
From: Frank da Cruz <SY.FDC@CU20B.COLUMBIA.EDU>
Subject: 7171 Entry for Macintosh (VT100 without highlighting)
BY popular demand, here is the 7171 code to support Macintosh
Kermit's VT-102 emulator:
**************************************************************
* MODULE NAME = VT100 *
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VT-100 TERM GENI,ORIGIN=X'01',RCHRS=GENSRCHS,FLAGS=X'0C00'
VTCSS1 CSS ESC,LBRACK,(CHARY),SEMI,(CHARX),H * POSITION
VTCSS2 CSS ESC,LBRACK,K * ERASE EOL
VTCSS3 CSS , *
VTCSS4 CSS BEL * TONE
VTCSS5 CSS BS * CURSOR LEFT
VTCSS6 CSS ESC,LBRACK,C * CURSOR RIGHT
VTCSS7 CSS ESC,LBRACK,A * CURSOR UP
VTCSS8 CSS ESC,LBRACK,B * CURSOR DOWN
VTCSS9 CSS ESC,LBRACK,@1,LCQ * SIGNAL INSERT MODE
VTCSS10 CSS ESC,LBRACK,@0,LCQ * SIGNAL END INSERT MODE
VTCSS11 CSS , *
VTCSS12 CSS ESC,LBRACK,H,ESC,LBRACK,J * CLEAR
VTCSS13 EQU *
CSS '\=\<\[H\[J\[?1h\[?3;6;7l\[20l\[0q\[0m'
VTCSS14 CSS COLON *
VTCSS15 CSS , *
VTCSS16 CSS , *
VTCSS17 CSS , *
VTCSS18 CSS ESC,LBRACK,(CHARFLD),LCM *
VTCSS19 CSS , *
*
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* Macintosh PC running Kermit (VT100 w/out highlighting *
**************************************************************
MAC TERM GENI,ORIGIN=X'01',RCHRS=GENSRCHS
CSS EQU=VTCSS1
CSS EQU=VTCSS2
CSS EQU=VTCSS3
CSS EQU=VTCSS4
CSS EQU=VTCSS5
CSS EQU=VTCSS6
CSS EQU=VTCSS7
CSS EQU=VTCSS8
CSS EQU=VTCSS9
CSS EQU=VTCSS10
CSS EQU=VTCSS11
CSS EQU=VTCSS12
CSS EQU=VTCSS13
CSS EQU=VTCSS14
CSS EQU=VTCSS15
CSS EQU=VTCSS16
CSS EQU=VTCSS17
CSS EQU=VTCSS18
CSS EQU=VTCSS19
*
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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1986 15:51 EDT
From: Bill Seeley <WAS@UMAB>
Subject: Kermit over LAN gateways
I think the fundamental problem with using Kermit across a LAN gateway
will not be with Kermit per se. The basic problem seems to be that
most gateway systems require the user to run an application in his/her
workstation in order to communicate across the LAN to the gateway server.
Once a port is allocated on the gateway server, there must be some way
to re-direct Kermit's I/O from COMn: to the communication channel provided
by the server. I believe Bridge Communications has a product for 3COM
Ethernets in beta test which claims to support "COM1 re-direction."
Ungermann-Bass' Net/One also claims to support a similar function using
a variant of MS-NETWORKS. I'm curious to know if anyone else out there
has experience using Kermit with these or similar products. If you would
publish this in your Info-Kermit newsletter I'd be most grateful.
Thanks,
Bill
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Date: Sun, 2 Feb 86 23:14:30 PST
From: Samuel_Lam%UBC.MAILNET@MIT-MULTICS.ARPA
Subject: MS-Kermit Suggestion
It would be nice if MS-Kermit would use an DOS environment variable to locate
it's profile (MSKERMIT.INI), so that Kermit can be invoked from various
sub-directories of a hard disk with only *one* copy of the profile stored on
the hard disk. Alternately, MS-Kermit could employ the search PATH used by DOS
for it's command files.
An example of how the former scheme would work is:
A>SET MSKERMIT=C:\COMM\KERMIT
The above should make MS-Kermit use C:\COMM\KERMIT as its profile if
C:\COMM\KERMIT is a file, but use C:\COMM\KERMIT\MSKERMIT.INI if C:\COMM\KERMIT
is a sub-directory. This shceme would allow the user to specify not only a
sub-directory, but optionally also the exact name of the profile, all in one
DOS environment variable.
The specification of the scheme may sound complicative at first glance, but it
really is quite intuitive when it is in use.
...Sam Lam
[From jrd -- Path searches really ought to be done I suppose; it just takes
some time to write the code to a) test if DOS found a file on its own and b)
chugging down the PATH= string trying the selections. I sort of put this into
category B, do when time is available, together with things like redefinable
keys at the Kermit prompt level. A directly usable Kermit seems more important
than waiting for the endless series of 'frills' to be added.]
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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 86 11:00 EST
From: E. Thaler, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology ( ETH Zuerich )
Subject: Olivetti Keyboard Layout
Hello
We got and installed your Kermit Version 2.27 for Olivetti M24 with
VT 100 emulation. It works fine.
We are using a keyboard of swiss-german type with a different keyboard
layout. To display the appropriate characters, we need to adapt
the keyboard-driver program (KBDVT100).
Is it possible to get the source of the keyboard-driver?
[Ed. - Sorry, this version came via slow boat from Australia.
It would take longer to get this program then it would be to
wait for the next version of MS-DOS Kermit (2.29).]
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Date: 29-JAN-1986 13:19:14
From: SYSKERMIT%vax1.central.lancaster.ac.uk@cs.ucl.ac.uk
Subject: Kermit for Victor/Sirius
It may not be a good idea to remove SIR files just yet. Over here there
have been a lot of changes in Sirius/Victor dealerships, resulting in long
periods when no-one seemed to want to sell anything for them. Result is that
MS-DOS 2 is not, I think, that common - and MS-Kermit won't support MS-DOS 1.
I've put out a question in our UK info digest asking Sirius users for comments,
and I'll get back to you.
Alan
[Ed. - Don't worry, we won't delete the old stuff until we're sure it's safe.]
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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1986 10:33 EST
From: Nick Gimbrone <NJG@CORNELLA>
Subject: Re: Strange Cursors
Can someone append the fix for the minus sign cursor seen on MSKermit for those
of us that do no have access to PC Tech J.?
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From: dolqci!irsdcp!albers@seismo.CSS.GOV
Date: Wed Feb 5 17:26:01 EST 1986
Subject: Osborne Exec Kermit
I have managed to get Kermit running on the Exec via generic CP/M 3.0, and I
will try over this weekend to duplicate it, although it was done useing an
older version of Kermit. I will forward the results to the list.
I am, however, VERY interested in the Turbo Kermit mentioned, and if the
sender of that note would contact me, I would like to get a copy. I will
submit it to the local OUG (Capitol Osborne User's Group), and I am sure
CapOUG will forward it to FOG (First Osborne Group).
Jon
~ Addresses: USnail: IRS, 1111 Constitution Ave. NW Washington, DC 20224 ~
~ Atten: Jon Albers, Room 6335 D:C:P ~
~ Office Number Down Under: (202)566-5240 (FTS)566-5240 ~
~ UUCP: .....seismo!dolqci!irsdcp!albers (3rd floor Zilog: Down Under) ~
~ ARPA: JALBERS@SIMTEL20.ARPA ~
[Ed. - If you do manage to track it down and submit it to the User Group,
please let us know so we can add it to the list of diskette sources.]
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