[mod.protocols.appletalk] Aztec C version of MacIP

reisor@MICRO.UDEL.EDU.UUCP (07/31/86)

I feel like I must be missing something important here...

I understand that Richard Cogger has ported PCIP, which runs on ibm pc
compatables, to Aztec C for the Mac.  This is called MacIP.  MacIP relies
on a Corvus Omninet.  Maybe someone has done the work to have MacIP use
AppleTalk/Seagate/Ethernet - maybe not, but it would be nice.

I haven't been able to contact Richard Cogger, so unfortunately I'm bothering
the bboard with this question - Is this code available to me?  As is?

I need tcp/ip support for the Mac that will work in conjunction with
AppleTalk/Seagate/Ethernet.  Telnet, like the CMU Pascal verion, is
nice, but I actually need the tcp interface.

If the Aztec C version of MacIP is not available now, and won't be available
in the next few weeks I'll need to start on my own conversion.  It will
support AppleTalk/Seagate/Ethernet and will be placed in the public domain.
I'd rather not take on this academic excercise...

Could someone please fill me in on the real status of MacIP.  Also, what's
the "MacIP Conference"?

Ron

cperry@MITRE.ARPA.UUCP (08/01/86)

Ron,
I'm not sure what the "true" status of MacIP is, but Kinetics is sending
us a copy of it when we get our FastPath box in the next few weeks.
For one, I'd be most interested in what you discover about a TCP port to
the Mac, particularly if it's your own.  I'd consider it a favor if you
keep me appraised of answers to the question you put to info-applebus.

Thanks.

Chris
(a future AppleTalk user)

verber@OHIO-STATE.ARPA (Mark Verber) (08/01/86)

The version of MacIP that Kinetics is currently shipping is the original
C-MU/Darthmouth port.  This was derived from an old MIT PC/IP and rewriten
for the Mac using Lisa Pascal.  It is *buggy* with a capital B.  We are using
it in our lab, but only our staff use it because we are unwilling to expose
normal users to the flakeyness.

I believe the Aztec-C version of MacIP is a C port derived from the same
version of MIT PC/IP that the Pascal version came from.  I have no idea if
it is less buggy.

Stanford ACIS staff are currently working on an improved/extended version
of MacIP.  They are merging Cornell's Aztec-C version of MacIP with the
latest/greatest version of MIT's PC/IP.  The advantage of the newwer
MIT PC/IP is that it supports multiple sockets.  This means that telnet
works better  (no longer a hack), and that ftp is supported rather than
being limitted to tftp.  The folks at Stanford are trying to finish their
work by the end of the summer.  

When they finish it OSU is going to port it to MPW C and mabye Lightspeed-C.
Once we port the new MacIP to a nice C compiler we will go to work to improve
the applications, and Bentleyize (optimize) the libraries.  We are planning
to support multiple telnet connections (each in it's own window of course),
and *fast* screen output.  We are also looking into the possibility of making
the MacIP libraries into either device drivers or at least a package which
can be loaded in by the applications that need it.

Cheers,
Mark A. Verber			verber@ohio-state.arpa  (internet)
The Ohio State University	verber@ohio-state.csnet (csnet)
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joel@gould9.UUCP (Joel West) (08/05/86)

>When they finish it OSU is going to port it to MPW C and mabye Lightspeed-C.
>Once we port the new MacIP to a nice C compiler we will go to work to improve
>the applications, and Bentleyize (optimize) the libraries.  

The MPW environment is nice, it's nearly ready, and it's going to
be the standard.  The Green Hills compiler is as fast as they come.

Supposedly MPW will be available to the masses by late August.

	Joel West
	Western Software Technology, PO Box 2733, Vista, CA  92083
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