khanna@ARGUS.STANFORD.EDU.UUCP (12/12/86)
We are planning to start distribution of SU-MacIP (based on Cornell's
Aztec C version of MacIP) in January. The distribution would be limited
to universities only. In case anyone is interested please send mail
to .... macip@ahwahnee.stanford.edu. Please include your postal
address so that we can send you the distribution information.
SU-MacIP supports both telnet (vt100 emulation) and ftp. Other features
include photo option and scrolling. The package also doesn't require
a dedicated subnet for each Kinetics gateway, a block of addresses can
be assigned. Our thanks to Bill Croft from CSLI for his efforts and
cooperation.
raman khanna
croft@RUSSELL.STANFORD.EDU.UUCP (12/12/86)
Stanford's ACIS/Networking group is responsible for the modifications to the C based MacIP from MIT/Cornell. Andy Maas and Tom Malloy are the programmers there. Across the street here at Stanford CSLI we are just finishing up documentation on the new gateway release. It will be available via FTP and the Kinetics User's Group. No licensing is involved. We expect to release within the next couple days. Mark Sherman and Rob Chandhok at CMU have kindly put the mods for the new gateway code into their Pascal based MacIP (Telnet, TFTP, but no FTP or fancy terminal emulation). This software is also available without any licensing arrangements.
Tappan@G.BBN.COM.UUCP (12/12/86)
I don't want to sound abusive, but why this "university only" policy? We (BBN) have contributed to publicly available Appletalk (and other Macintosh) software, and I'm working on permission to contribute more. I don't see how you can justify treating part of the research community (universities) differently from the rest. We will all benefit alot more if we can work cooperatively. If we start getting selfish and placing foolish restrictions on distribution then in the long run both the community as a whole and the individual members will lose. (Just to nit-pick: distributing stuff over the arpanet and not making it available to government sites is probably illegal.) -------
khanna@ARGUS.STANFORD.EDU.UUCP (12/12/86)
< I don't want to sound abusive, but why this "university only"
policy? We (BBN) have contributed to publicly available Appletalk
(and other Macintosh) software, and I'm working on permission to
contribute more. I don't see how you can justify treating part of
the research community (universities) differently from the rest.>
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Dan,
I could not agree with you more. But the Office of Technolgy
Licensing at Stanford imposes certain restrictions on what we can
or cannot do. I do not set the policy and just convey it (also take
all the abuse from people hurt by the policy !). I'll talk to my director
to see if we anything can be done about the policy. I'm glad that you
raised the issue, though.
I remember a long debate about six months ago on pcip discussion
group. After lot of discussion people seemed to think that universities
should not be in this sort of business anyway. I sort of disagree in the
sense that many departments in universities have limited funds and, many
times, their options are limited to free-software or no software.
raman