atkins@nbires.UUCP.UUCP (07/15/86)
The Corporation for Open Systems (COS) is an excellent conduit for input to the international standards bodies, but it is rather expensive. There is the membership fee, plus the additional cost of participation. (It was said by a COS member that COS is not looking for many members of little commitment, but a lesser number of members of great commitment.) There is another, perhaps less direct, input into the ISO/CCITT bodies. NBS has an OSI Workshop which is producing a document entitled "Implementation Agreements Among Implementors of OSI Protocols", which provides a somewhat more precise interpretation of the various OSI standards, namely FTAM and X.400 (in addition to the lower layers). Production of significant portions of this document fall into the hands of SIGs (Special Interest Groups). Participation in these SIGs is "limited" to Implementors, Vendors, and Users of OSI protocols. As you can see, anyone can take part in this process. Many active SIG members are also members of CCITT and ISO, and can thus provide SIG input back into the standards process. NBS out of Gaithersburg, MD can provide information on these workshops and SIG participation. Since these SIGs are populated by people doing the work, many of the real problems are brought out into the open. I can speak from experience, there is a high degree of commitment among the participants (in the X.400 SIG at least). So if you want "be part of the solution" rather than complain about the past, here is an opportunity. Brian Atkins ...{attunix, hao, allegra, ucbvax}!nbires!atkins NBI Inc., P.O. Box 9001, Boulder CO 80301 (303) 444-5710
sjl@amdahl.UUCP.UUCP (07/20/86)
In message <8607150327.AA07564@opus> nbires!atkins@ucbvax (Brian Atkins) states that the Corporation for Open Systems (COS) is a good way to input to the international standards bodies and mentioned the National Bureau of Standards sponsored OSI Implementors Workshop as a less expensive alternative. I appreciate him mentioning the OSI Implementors' Workshops because they have been very important in moving OSI protocols from paper to practice. However, it is important to understand that the main way of affecting standards development is through the national standards committees. The main role of the OSI Implementors' Workshops is to interpret existing standards, although they will sometimes send liaison statements to standards groups. The role of COS is not to represent COS members in standards bodies - members are expected to send their own representatives. COS is intended to accelerate the use and development of OSI and ISDN standards by developing commonly agreed tests and providing a forum in which members are made aware of areas where standards development needs to be accelerated. When discussing COS and the OSI Implementors' Workshops it is useful to know that they have a complementary relationship. COS intends to base the protocol inplementation tests on the agreements reached in the Workshops. COS has also sent the Workshops requests regarding the scheduling and priority of the subjects discussed in the Workshops. A significant number of COS members send representatives to the Workshops. I both attend the OSI Implementors' Workshops and participate in COS activities. As editor of a report produced by the pre-COS group (which led to COS being formed) and as chair of the COS Architecture Committee I have consistently recommended using the agreements reached at the Workshops. However, I do not believe that COS and the OSI Implementors' Workshops currently represent alternatives - they are doing different things. Neither is primarily a method for input to the international standards bodies; this purpose is served by ANSI approved committees or their equivalents in other countries. Stephen J. Langdon ...!{ihnp4,cbosgd,hplabs,sun}!amdahl!sjl [ The article above is not an official statement from any organization in the known universe. ]