[mod.protocols.tcp-ip] odd routings

hedrick@TOPAZ.RUTGERS.EDU (Charles Hedrick) (09/28/86)

I have been looking at our EGP routings.  I checked a few sites that I
know we talk to a lot.  Our current EGP peers are yale-gw and
css-ring-gw.  (We keep a list of possible peers, and the gateway picks
2.  It will change if one of them becomes inaccessible.  This particular
pair seems to be fairly stable.)  Here I what I found:
  CMU:  As far as I can see, the only way into CMU is cmu-gateway,
	10.2.0.14.  The EGP table showed 10.3.0.27, which is
	gateway.isi.edu.  We will hope that ISI would be smart enough
	to give us a redirect if we actually used this route, but
	it seems odd none the less.  We tried to establish a direct
	EGP connection with cmu-gateway, but we were unable to 
	acquire them.  (In addition to the list of potential peers,
	our gateway also has a list of secondary gateways, all of
	which it will acquire.  The intent is that these are gateways
	that are so important to us that we don't want to depend upon
	the core for information about them.)  We have ended up
	adding a static routing to them.
  MIT:  They seem to have 4 different networks.  The ones with direct
	Arpanet gateways are 18 (using 10.0.0.77) and 128.52 (using
	10.3.0.6).  EGP was telling us to use 10.3.0.27 (isi) and
	10.2.0.37 (purdue) respectively.  Fortunately, we were able
	to acquire both of MIT's gateways, so I am simply going to
	list them as secondary gateways.
  Stanford:  It appears that the only reasonable route to network 18
	is stanford-gateway, 10.1.0.11.  Our EGP table was telling
	us to use 10.2.0.37 (purdue-cs-gateway).  We were able to
	acquire the stanford gateway, and have also added them to
	our list of secondary gateways.
Am I doing something wrong?  Here is the relevant portion of our
current configuration file.  I confess that I do not know where the
list of primary neighbors came from.  It seems to have been developed
by one of our systems staff after numerous dealings with the Network
Operations Center trying to diagnose problems.  Note that the gateway
itself is Cisco Systems' commerical version of the Stanford Arpanet
gateway.  It is based on a 68000, with an ACC 1822 card.  This code
has probably not been used many places outside of Stanford, so it is
certainly possible that there are problems left with it.  But it gives
every appearance of doing the right thing.

primary-neighbors 2
egp-neighbor 10.7.0.63 46 primary	! bbn-net2-gateway
egp-neighbor 10.2.0.37 46 primary	! purdue-cs-gw
egp-neighbor 10.0.0.94 46 primary	! wisc-gateway
egp-neighbor 10.3.0.27 46 primary	! isi-gateway
egp-neighbor 10.0.0.25 46 primary	! css-ring-gw (seismo)
egp-neighbor 10.0.0.9  46 primary	! harvard-gw
egp-neighbor 10.1.0.51 46 primary	! sri-prm-gw
egp-neighbor 10.1.0.54 46 primary	! cit-cs-gw
egp-neighbor 10.2.0.9  46 primary	! yale-gw
# talk directly to our friends, since these tend to have bogus routes
egp-neighbor 10.0.0.77 46		! mit-gw, for net 18
egp-neighbor 10.3.0.6  46		! mit-ai-gw, for net 128.52
egp-neighbor 10.1.0.11 46		! stanford-gw, for net 36
# I can't get cmu-gateway to respond to EGP, so do it statically
route 128.2.254.36 10.2.0.14		! cmu-gateway, for net 128.2

MRC@SIMTEL20.ARPA (Mark Crispin) (09/29/86)

The funny EGP stuff isn't in cisco's gateway; my TOPS-20 EGP gets the
same sort of garbage.  Fortunately, *most* of the gateways *will*
redirect.

I think the mailbridges are the principle culprit.  Dave Mills can
probably give you a complete description of what is wrong and why.
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