[mod.protocols.tcp-ip] Network horror story

jsol@buit1.bu.EDU.UUCP (03/22/87)

This won't be news to any of you who are bitnet people, but I think
it will be to some others.

Bitnet has a routing system based on static lookup tables (hey, IBM
software rules!).  Updated versions of these tables are generated once
a month and sent all over bitnet...

One problem with this is that the huge amount of data swamps several
major network links (like PSUVM<->OHSTVMA).  Recent mail from our
fearless leaders at BITNIC follows:

        From LINKFAIL@BITNIC.BITNET Tue Mar 17 09:23:08 1987
        Received: by psuvax1.UUCP (4.12/4.7)
                id AA18551; Tue, 17 Mar 87 09:22:57 est
        Message-Id: <8703171422.AA18551@psuvax1.UUCP>
        Received: From bitnic.bitnet By psuvax1.bitnet ; 17 Mar 87 14:22:37 GMT
        Received: by BITNIC (Mailer X1.23b) id 6139; Tue, 17 Mar 87 09:08:23 EST
        Date:         Tue, 17 Mar 87 09:01:39 EST
        Reply-To:     Scott Earley <EARLEY@BITNIC>
        Sender: BITNIC LINKFAIL List <LINKFAIL@BITNIC>
        From: Scott Earley <EARLEY@BITNIC>
        Subject:      "March" routing tables
        To: "Dave Eckhardt (Penn SU Comp Sci VLSI Dev" <DAE@PSUVAX1>

        What were once known as the "March routing tables" have been
        twice delayed from delivery -- both irregular circumstances.
        The proposed solution to the immediate dilemma is as follows:

        Tables for all sites on the Penn State side of the PSU-Ohio link
        will be sent through the UCBCMSA--CUNYVM link as usual.  Tables
        for all sites on the Ohio side of the PSU-Ohio link will be put
        on tape and mailed overnight to a pre-appointed individual who
        will reintroduce them into the network from there.  This will
        eliminate sending about 200 tables through the PSUVM--OHSTVMA
        link.  In the future, those tables will be generated by a site
        on the far side, as a more permanent solution.

        ...

That's right.  Mag tape.

--Daemon

LYNCH@A.ISI.EDU.UUCP (03/22/87)

"on the far side" conjures up visions of Gary Larson's delightful
creatures manipulating that huge database in the sky.  Actually
the folks in BITNET are experiencing a wonderful thing:  success.
They pay for it by having to mail magtapes around once in a while.
The Arpanauts also have success and pay for it by byzantine dynamic
behavior.  The pain we all go through to get network services must
be worth the gain, eh?  We all need more money and bright ideas
to make the networks work better.  A dose of money could help
to give our brains a rest...

Dan
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PERRY@VAX.DARPA.MIL (Dennis G. Perry) (03/23/87)

I would like to counter Dan's suggestion that money is a solution.  In fact
I think we have too much money chasing too few brains.  If we would use
our brains to figure out what is 'right', we could probably do with the
money we have.  Unfortunately, as is often the case in economics, it it not
the amount of money available, it is the improper distribution of same.
Brains and money have at least one thing in common, they should both be
put to work, and if left idle, will both lead to mischief!

dennis
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LYNCH@A.ISI.EDU (Dan Lynch) (03/23/87)

Dennis,  My (unspoken) use for the money was not for more research,
but for more simple capacity.  As a matter of fact, depending on what
your goal is, you should be able to create a model of allocating
your dollar budget that maximizes "happiness" by giving some
to research and some to capacity.  When you see lots of good research
ideas you fund research, else just pump the money into capacity.
If that is the model you have been implementing inthe past then 
there must have been a lot of great research going on in the past
few years...

Dan
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PERRY@VAX.DARPA.MIL.UUCP (03/23/87)

Dan, not sure there has been any model, or any great research either.

dennis
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