ddyment@watmath.UUCP (Doug Dyment) (11/20/85)
>> >>If anyone decides to write a brand new version of Unix, then >>this should be put straight once and for all. It is now over 15 >>years since ISO decided that Monday is the first day of the >>week. Hence, we can number the days 0-6 or 1-7, but Monday >>should be first! >> > For several hundred years sunday has been the first day of the >week. Look at any calandar[sic]. > For several thousand years Sunday has been the last day of the week. Look at any bible. But actually, I'll stick with the ISO argument.
garys@bunker.UUCP (Gary M. Samuelson) (11/23/85)
> >>If anyone decides to write a brand new version of Unix, then > >>this should be put straight once and for all. It is now over 15 > >>years since ISO decided that Monday is the first day of the > >>week. Hence, we can number the days 0-6 or 1-7, but Monday > >>should be first! > > For several hundred years sunday has been the first day of the > >week. Look at any calandar[sic]. French calendars have Monday first. > For several thousand years Sunday has been the last day of the > week. Look at any bible. > > But actually, I'll stick with the ISO argument. Looking at my bible reveals that the word "Sunday" does not appear at all. The last day of the week is called the "Sabbath." The first day of the week is called simply that, the first day of the week. But what difference does it make to the operating system which day is first? If you want to print a calendar, you can put any day you like in column 1. The internal encoding for the names of the days of the week is arbitrary and should not have any external significance. Suppose the names were hashed; then they might appear in any order (no, you probably wouldn't hash a table with only seven entries; that's not the point). Gary Samuelson
alexis@reed.UUCP (Alexis Dimitriadis) (11/23/85)
> > For several hundred years sunday has been the first day of the > >week. Look at any calandar[sic]. > > > For several thousand years Sunday has been the last day of the > week. Look at any bible. This is rapidly getting irrelevant, but remember, the seventh day is the _Sabbath_. ISO apparently invented the convention. Also, at least one language (Greek) names several days of the week with their ordinal number. Monday -> Second. Too bad ISO didn't stick to the historical order. Alexis Dimitriadis -- _______________________________________________ Any opinions expressed above have been grown organically and contain no preservatives or artificial sweeteners. alexis @ reed {decvax,ihnp4,ucbcad,uw-beaver}!tektronix!reed.UUCP
wcs@ho95e.UUCP (Bill.Stewart.4K435.x0705) (11/25/85)
In article <174@watmath.UUCP> ddyment@watmath.UUCP (Doug Dyment) writes: > >> For several hundred years sunday has been the first day of the >>week. Look at any calandar[sic]. >> > For several thousand years Sunday has been the last day of the >week. Look at any bible. > Funny, my Bible refers to the Sabbath, but it doesn't use the modern names, which are mostly of pagan European origin. However, the Jews, for whom the Sabbath is a way of life, still think Saturday is the Sabbath, and I doubt they'd have gotten it wrong. There are early records from the Romans which refer to Christians getting together on the *first* day of the week for their meetings, i.e. Sunday, in honor of the resurrection. Gradually this absorbed many of the Sabbath traditions (most early Christians *were* Jewish), and many groups have treated Sunday as the Sabbath; others, such as the Seventh-Day Adventists, point out that the Sabbath is still Saturday. I get the impression that renumbering the days of the week so they start with Monday is a recent European rationalization of "Sunday is our Sabbath so it must be the 7th day of the week"; customary usage in the USA is that the week starts on Sunday, whereas I remember learning the days of the week in French as "<monday>, <tuesday>..." (Sorry, but I never could spell them) Bill Arrgh! An electrical virus is eating my terminal! -- ## Bill Stewart, AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel NJ 1-201-949-0705 ihnp4!ho95c!wcs
medin@noscvax.UUCP (Ted Medin) (11/26/85)
In article <174@watmath.UUCP> ddyment@watmath.UUCP (Doug Dyment) writes: > >>> >>>If anyone decides to write a brand new version of Unix, then >>>this should be put straight once and for all. It is now over 15 >>>years since ISO decided that Monday is the first day of the >>>week. Hence, we can number the days 0-6 or 1-7, but Monday >>>should be first! >>> >> For several hundred years sunday has been the first day of the >>week. Look at any calandar[sic]. >> > For several thousand years Sunday has been the last day of the >week. Look at any bible. > > But actually, I'll stick with the ISO argument. I suggest you dust off your bible and read it. The saboth(saturday) is the 7th day. Early Christians met on the first day of the week(sunday or Lords day).
franka@mmintl.UUCP (Frank Adams) (12/03/85)
In article <402@erisun.UUCP> leif@erisun.UUCP (Leif Samuelsson) writes: >Ok, here's my final comment on this subject for now: > >Would anyone on the net claim that Sunday is not part >of the week-end? +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+ | | | | | | | | | Sun | Mon | Tue | Wed | Thu | Fri | Sat | | | | | | | | | +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+ Sunday is on one end, and Saturday is on the other end. (I don't care either way, myself, as long as it is clear in whatever context the issue comes up.) Frank Adams ihpn4!philabs!pwa-b!mmintl!franka Multimate International 52 Oakland Ave North E. Hartford, CT 06108
boston@celerity.UUCP (Boston Office) (12/05/85)
In article <174@watmath.UUCP> ddyment@watmath.UUCP (Doug Dyment) writes: > >>> >>>If anyone decides to write a brand new version of Unix, then >>>this should be put straight once and for all. It is now over 15 >>>years since ISO decided that Monday is the first day of the >>>week. Hence, we can number the days 0-6 or 1-7, but Monday >>>should be first! >>> >> For several hundred years sunday has been the first day of the >>week. Look at any calandar[sic]. >> > For several thousand years Sunday has been the last day of the >week. Look at any bible. > > But actually, I'll stick with the ISO argument. Gee, as far as I'm concerned, the Bible agrees with Sunday being the first day. After all, the Sabbath is the last day, and ANY rabbi will tell you that's Saturday!