[net.auto.tech] water in oil

tech@ucf-cs.UUCP (Electronic technician) (02/24/86)

    does anybody out there know an easy way to tell if the
    water in my oil comes from a cracked block, cracked head,
    or a blown head gasket? Of course I suppose it's possible
    that something else could be causing this, but I don't know 
    what. 

    The car is an 1980 omega :-( and has been a real problem
    but, alas, it was my only way to work. Any help would be
    greatly appreciated. I want to avoid taking the head off
    if I can tell beforehand that the block is the problem.
    
    Tony Travaglini {decvax,akgua}!ucf-cs!tech

fbr@utastro.UUCP (Frank Ray) (02/25/86)

In article <2270@ucf-cs.UUCP>, tech@ucf-cs.UUCP (Electronic technician) writes:
> 
> 
>     does anybody out there know an easy way to tell if the
>     water in my oil comes from a cracked block, cracked head,
>     or a blown head gasket? Of course I suppose it's possible
>     that something else could be causing this, but I don't know 
>     what. 
> 
>     The car is an 1980 omega :-( and has been a real problem
>     but, alas, it was my only way to work. Any help would be
>     greatly appreciated. I want to avoid taking the head off
>     if I can tell beforehand that the block is the problem.
>     
>     Tony Travaglini {decvax,akgua}!ucf-cs!tech

Yes.  Attach a cooling system pressure tester to the radiator
inlet.  A rapid buildup in pressure indicates a blown head gasket.
If a water passage is cracked in an area that is remote from
cylinder pressure, the seepage will be more gradual, due to the
normal pressure buildup in the cooling system overriding the
crankcase pressure.  If the car has aluminum alloy castings in
the engine, sometimes cracks will open up in these under thermal
stress and allow fluids to pass, and then appear normal as the
block (or head) cools down.  I had a VW which did this.
  If on the pressure test, you see pulsations, that's got to
be cylinder leakage.
   Slight warping of the block and/or head will cause the head
gasket to leak.  One thing to try temporarily is to torque the
head bolts another 10% or so, but if the gasket is leaking badly
there's not much to do but to replace it.

fbr@utastro.UUCP

marauder@fluke.UUCP (Bill Landsborough) (03/04/86)

In article <2270@ucf-cs.UUCP> tech@ucf-cs.UUCP (Electronic technician) writes:
>
>
>    does anybody out there know an easy way to tell if the
>    water in my oil comes from a cracked block, cracked head,
>    or a blown head gasket? Of course I suppose it's possible
>    that something else could be causing this, but I don't know 
>    what. 
>    Tony Travaglini {decvax,akgua}!ucf-cs!tech

 I would suggest doing a compression test of all cylinders.  A
blown head gasket from the cylinder to the water jacket will show
little to no compression especially when the engine is turned over
slower than the normal speed for a compression check.

Also I believe that almost all water/oil leaks are caused by head
related damage so a "gamble" would be in your favor to pull the head
and look.
			Bill Landsborough

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