[net.micro.amiga] Some questions

aer@alice.UucP (y) (09/20/85)

I have a question:

 In this month's _Compute_ magazine which I found in the library, an article
on the Amiga stated that current Amigas, sold as 256K machines, would actually
have 512K or RAM, the upper 256K of which would be write-protected and
used as virtual ROM for the operating system.

 Later Amigas were supposed to have this memory removed, and replaced with ROM chips.

 There was no talk of being able to upgrade one's RAM Amiga to a ROM Amiga
when the operating system was compacted and given to ROM. This means that
early Amigas will have to have the operating system on disk, and that it
will also to take time to load the operating system at each powerup.
So how long does it take to load? And by the way, what is the transfer rate
on the disk drive ports?

When will the ROM based Amigas come out? Do you really think Amiga won't upgrade
the machines? (There are two empty DIP spaces on an Amiga motherboard.)

Could the extra 256K be used if and after a ROM upgrade? Wouldn't it be
nice to be able to modify one's operating system a bit anyway, and have it
always upgradeable? What is a better deal? A RAM Amiga now, or a ROM Amiga
later?

(Please post to the net- this I believe is of general interest.)
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davecl@orca.UUCP (Dave Clemans) (09/23/85)

> When will the ROM based Amigas come out? Do you really think Amiga won't upgrade
> the machines? (There are two empty DIP spaces on an Amiga motherboard.)
If you compare pictures of ROM and RAM versions of the Amiga motherboard
(see Amigaworld, Byte, etc.) I think that you will see the WCS dynamic
ram using the board space where the ROM was; i.e. to change to a ROM
based OS you would have to take out the WCS daughter board.

(Besides two empty DIP spaces will not hold ~200K bytes of OS...)

dgc

zarifes@bnrmtv.UUCP (Kenneth Zarifes) (09/25/85)

>  In this month's _Compute_ magazine which I found in the library, an article
> on the Amiga stated that current Amigas, sold as 256K machines, would actually
> have 512K or RAM, the upper 256K of which would be write-protected and
> used as virtual ROM for the operating system.
> 
>  Later Amigas were supposed to have this memory removed, and replaced with ROM chips.
> 
> When will the ROM based Amigas come out? Do you really think Amiga won't upgrade
> the machines? (There are two empty DIP spaces on an Amiga motherboard.)
> 

  Commodore is not answering either of those questions.

> Could the extra 256K be used if and after a ROM upgrade? Wouldn't it be

> always upgradeable? What is a better deal? A RAM Amiga now, or a ROM Amiga
> later?
> 

  You couldn't use the extra 256K after a ROM upgrade because it will be
being taken up by the ROM.  It's just *address space*.  You pull out the RAM
chips and replace them with ROM chips.

  As for which is the better deal...it's hard to say.  The upgrade will
probably cost you money.  But why bother?  Most developers are saying that
they really don't care which Amiga they get.  You can boot a little faster
with the OS in ROM, and you will have more room on your floppy. Big deal.

Cheers,
Ken Zarifes