foust@gumby.UUCP (09/11/85)
Has everyone seen the latest ad from Atari on the back of the latest (Sept. 9) Infoworld? Atari compares the Atari ST, the Macintosh, and the Amiga. Guess who comes out ahead! The ad has pictures of a Mac, an AT, and an Amiga (not a picture, a sketch in blueprint blue) across the top. The ad says "There's only one word for these prices: Rip-off." This ad should get the apples==oranges award of 1985. It's worse than the Intel vs. Motorola ads. A chart sits on the side of the ad: Atari ST IBM AT Mac Amiga Price 799 4675 2795 1795 CPU 68000 80286 68000 68000 Speed Mhz 8.0 6.0 7.83 7.16 Standard RAM 512K 256K 512K 256K # of keys 95 95 59 89 Mouse Yes No Yes Yes Screen Res color 640x200 640x200 None 640x200*** mono 640x400 720x350** 512x342 640x200*** Color output Yes Optional None Yes # of colors 512 16 None 4096 Disk drive 3.5" 5.25" 3.5" 3.5" Built in Hard disk (DMA) port Yes Yes No No MIDI interface Yes No No No # of sound voices 3 1 4 4 (fine print:) ** with optional monochrome board (non bit-mapped) *** interlace mode - 640x400 Anybody want to have fun? Let's have a contest to see how many inaccuracies we can find in this ad... Also, Dvorak says this in his column: "_If You Haven't Noticed Department._ All the high-profile technology writers are _withholding judgement_ concerning the Amiga. I'm not sure exactly why this is. The wait-and-see attitude isn't good for a new computer. Witness the Mindset fiasco. The only way to get into the market with a _hot new machine_ is the way Apple brought out the Macintosh: lots of hoopla and hacker support. Commodore introduced the Amiga in New York to a lot of _jaded national media_ folk and _insulted technology writers_ by keeping them out of question and answer sessions. Instead of catering to computer heroes like Bill Budge, they catered to uninspiring Andy Warhol." John
jimomura@lsuc.UUCP (Jim Omura) (09/28/85)
In article <438@gumby.UUCP> foust@gumby.UUCP writes: >Has everyone seen the latest ad from Atari on the back of the latest >(Sept. 9) Infoworld? > >Atari compares the Atari ST, the Macintosh, and the Amiga. Guess who >comes out ahead! > >The ad has pictures of a Mac, an AT, and an Amiga (not a picture, a >sketch in blueprint blue) across the top. The ad says "There's only >one word for these prices: Rip-off." > >This ad should get the apples==oranges award of 1985. It's worse >than the Intel vs. Motorola ads. I looked at the ad. As far as I could see, with the info at hand when it was probably drafted it was "accurate". People stupid enough to think that this comparison told you everything you needed to know about a computer have existed for some time now. Many of them bought Commodore 64's (should I ask you what you own and why you own it?). I dislike uncalled for name calling. > Atari ST IBM AT Mac Amiga >Price 799 4675 2795 1795 >CPU 68000 80286 68000 68000 >Speed Mhz 8.0 6.0 7.83 7.16 >Standard RAM 512K 256K 512K 256K ># of keys 95 95 59 89 >Mouse Yes No Yes Yes >Screen Res >color 640x200 640x200 None 640x200*** >mono 640x400 720x350** 512x342 640x200*** >Color output Yes Optional None Yes ># of colors 512 16 None 4096 >Disk drive 3.5" 5.25" 3.5" 3.5" >Built in Hard >disk (DMA) port Yes Yes No No >MIDI interface Yes No No No ># of sound voices 3 1 4 4 > >(fine print:) >** with optional monochrome board (non bit-mapped) >*** interlace mode - 640x400 > > >Anybody want to have fun? Let's have a contest to see how many >inaccuracies we can find in this ad... > > >Also, Dvorak says this in his column: (Dvorak? You read Dvorak? Why? Sigh... Oh well, if you must.) > >"_If You Haven't Noticed Department._ All the high-profile technology >writers are _withholding judgement_ concerning the Amiga. I'm not >sure exactly why this is. The wait-and-see attitude isn't good for As you probably know, and Mr. D. doesn't, the h-p tech press is responsible and doesn't jump to conclusions these days. Oh heck, this is a waste of time. Don't bother me with Dvorak. , >a new computer. Witness the Mindset fiasco. The only way to get >into the market with a _hot new machine_ is the way Apple brought out >the Macintosh: lots of hoopla and hacker support. Commodore >introduced the Amiga in New York to a lot of _jaded national media_ >folk and _insulted technology writers_ by keeping them out of >question and answer sessions. Instead of catering to computer heroes >like Bill Budge, they catered to uninspiring Andy Warhol." > > >John I expect our opinions of Mr. Dvorak's article are one and the same. It's amazing how many trees are wasted every year ... -- James Omura, Barrister & Solicitor, Toronto ihnp4!utzoo!lsuc!jimomura