[net.micro.amiga] Cost of OS-9 is about the same as cost of Unix.

gnu@l5.uucp (John Gilmore) (09/24/85)

In article <798@lsuc.UUCP>, jimomura@lsuc.UUCP (Jim Omura) writes:
>      The cost of licensing OS-9 isn't unreasonably high.  If you check
> around, you'll find that it's generally licenced for about $100.00 U.S.
> The Shack is able to sell it for as little as $70.00 Canadian.

Somehow I got the impression that a single-user Unix license (the real
thing from AT&T) could be gotten in large volumes at less than $100.
This includes a license to run *ALL* the Unix utilities, all the
languages, etc.  (The people who divide it all up into dozens of separately
priced $300 floppies are just ripping you off.)

I suspect OS-9 fits better into a system with a 300K floppy and no hard
disk, making it a better deal for the $100 for that kind of system, but
that wasn't the question.

dibble@rochester.UUCP (Peter C. Dibble) (09/25/85)

> In article <798@lsuc.UUCP>, jimomura@lsuc.UUCP (Jim Omura) writes:
> >      The cost of licensing OS-9 isn't unreasonably high.  If you check
> > around, you'll find that it's generally licenced for about $100.00 U.S.
> > The Shack is able to sell it for as little as $70.00 Canadian.
> 
> Somehow I got the impression that a single-user Unix license (the real
> thing from AT&T) could be gotten in large volumes at less than $100.
> This includes a license to run *ALL* the Unix utilities, all the
> languages, etc

How much does $100 in volume come out to retail.  If it's comparable with
OS-9's price I'll order a copy as a second operating system.
Even all the Unix manuals for < $100 would be a good deal.

As a note:  I believe that the large volume price for OS-9/68k is about
$10 per copy.

jimomura@lsuc.UUCP (Jim Omura) (09/29/85)

In article <153@l5.uucp> gnu@l5.uucp (John Gilmore) writes:
>In article <798@lsuc.UUCP>, jimomura@lsuc.UUCP (Jim Omura) writes:
>>      The cost of licensing OS-9 isn't unreasonably high.  If you check
>> around, you'll find that it's generally licenced for about $100.00 U.S.
>> The Shack is able to sell it for as little as $70.00 Canadian.
>
>Somehow I got the impression that a single-user Unix license (the real
>thing from AT&T) could be gotten in large volumes at less than $100.
>This includes a license to run *ALL* the Unix utilities, all the
>languages, etc.  (The people who divide it all up into dozens of separately
>priced $300 floppies are just ripping you off.)
>
>I suspect OS-9 fits better into a system with a 300K floppy and no hard
>disk, making it a better deal for the $100 for that kind of system, but
>that wasn't the question.


     I heard that $100.00 price too.  As for the repackagers, well,
I don't know that they really rip people off.  If they do a reall
port, ie with all the hardware interfacing completed, and provide
support (which I hear ATT doesn't), then the $300.00 isn't all that
bad.  Keep in mind that the $100.00 general price of OS-9 is
what I see for *ready to run* OS-9 software.  You don't have to
spend hours trying to get it up.  How much is your time worth?
Most pros charge around $50.00 from what I've heard.  Believe me,
you will *not* get generic Unix up in 6 hrs!

     Still, the *real* point should be that *many* alternatives
other than ground up software would have been reasonable enough
to consider.

-- 
James Omura, Barrister & Solicitor, Toronto
ihnp4!utzoo!lsuc!jimomura

peter@graffiti.UUCP (Peter da Silva) (10/02/85)

> 
>      I heard that $100.00 price too.  As for the repackagers, well,
> I don't know that they really rip people off.  If they do a reall
> port, ie with all the hardware interfacing completed, and provide
> support (which I hear ATT doesn't), then the $300.00 isn't all that
> bad.  Keep in mind that the $100.00 general price of OS-9 is
> what I see for *ready to run* OS-9 software.  You don't have to
> spend hours trying to get it up.  How much is your time worth?

And the $300 is for a bare-bones UNIX system. They generally charge $1000
to $1500 for the whole thing... $1000 is too much for the amount of time and
money it takes to get a Uniplus+ port done for your machine... if it costs less
to port UNIX than to develop your own O/S, then why do all these people develop
their own O/S-es and sell them for $150, or get UNIX and sell it for a grand?

jss@sjuvax.UUCP (J. Shapiro) (10/03/85)

Last time I checked, single user Unix 5.2 licenses could be sublicensed from
appropriate Value Added Resellers at $60 a piece when contracted for in
quantity 1000. This does not take into account porting cost or source cost or
new development cost to account for new ahrdware.

Jon Shapiro
-- 
Jonathan S. Shapiro
Haverford College

	"It doesn't compile pseudo code... What do you expect for fifty
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