wirch@puff.UUCP (10/06/85)
Here is a message from my co-worker John Foust, who has an Amiga developer's system: ---------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Foust Date: Oct 5 Does anyone have the Art Tools mentioned in the manuals? I assume they edit the .info files, which have a structure that isn't too hard to figure out. I'd hate to duplicate effort and write my own editor just to get rid of the dumb icons and stupid icon designs. Why didn't Electronic Arts put PolyScope and SlideShow up as icons on their demo disk? Do they want j. random user to drop down to the CLI, and type all that cryptic #%$#? Tip: ^O and ^N set the high bits on all characters, so that's why you get the screwy characters if you typed ^O to stop output, and then wondered what happened. ^N turns it off again. This is documented deep in a manual, but I figured it out using the Infinite Number Of Monkeys technique. Found a bad bug in ed: I ran ed via "run ed foo.c", as so to have it as a windowed separate task. I noticed that if I left the cursor on a line when I exitted via "*sa", the editor would erase the characters on that line, and then write the file out with the line missing. I couldn't get it to do this everytime, but beware... Solution: move the cursor to a blank line before exitting. The Amiga ran the Byte 8190 sieve.c in about 3.8 seconds. This version had all the stdin/stdout stuff, and increased to ~4 seconds when the clock was running as another task. I've had the OS crash when I had the Demos running (line,box,dotty). They aren't very robust. Otherwise, I've had no crashes from the OS, that I didn't write myself :-) Does anybody have contacts to early Amiga developers? I'm sure they have the Art Tools. Does anyone have a Graphicraft that loads or saves? How about a semi- working Textcraft? I have the ballet raster images, and can't load them... I think they were under V27.3 or so. Also, don't be tempted to use a gender-changer to hook up your IBM printer to the Centronics DB-25 male plug on the back. Make an adapter that connects 1 through 13 straight through, and then take 16 IBM to 25 Amiga, just to add the *INIT line. Ground the proper lines on the Amiga ends to the right ends on the IBM, and it works. DANGER: the Amiga pin 23 is +5 volts, and IBM 25 is ground, which would do wonde, I think. Also, since I'm not on the net, and would still like to converse, you can reach me via Rick (the poster of this) or via US Mail: John Foust % Sound Technologies, 16 N. Carroll St, Suite 16, Madison, WI, 53703 (608)256-3646. Otherwise, the printer works fine, and prints bit-images of Notepad messages with the fonts, etc. intact. However, the printed image is of the entire Notepad window, with the border and window title "NotePad 1.0". This sucks. Some older developers must have a set of tools that will make development a lot easier. For instance, I wasted an hour writing a little dump utility that lets me view binary files, and learned much about my dependencies on compilers that assume chars are unsigned, since the Lattice allows both signed and unsigned chars. Could the real Amiga developers send me their US Mail addresses, so we can swap tool disks? I anxiously await the *second* posting of Amiga source to the net... I will soon get a login on the Amiga BBS Tech Support, and look around there. Geez, it looks like it has been up for a while. Has anyone been on it yet? John Foust
frobozz@gitpyr.UUCP (Geoff George) (10/10/85)
<eat this> "Amiga BBS Tech Support" - Tell Me More ! geoff