[net.micro.amiga] Program load time

jcb@loral.UUCP (Jay C. Bowden) (10/09/85)

Commodore has quite a heritage to live down, in  my eyes,
with respect to program loading times from the disk.
The biggest reason I know of why the C64, which seemed to
have a lot going for it otherwise, proved to be essentially
unusable for *serious* applications was the crippling
speed of the link to the disk.  The first time I saw the
Flight Simulator message: "Program Load Time 2:50" my
jaw dropped to the floor!  The machine only has 64K of RAM,
but takes 3 minutes to load it?

So that's why you all have thrown your C64's in the closet,
and are chomping at the bit to buy a new Amiga.  The
question in my mind is, have they done it again?

It is interesting to note how previous computer experience
can taint a persons perceptions w.r.t personal computers.
People who had worked with 80 column screens COULD NOT
STAND the thought of using an Apple (40 col) for word processing.
After a Kaypro or other vanilla CP/M machine, waiting 3
minutes for 64K bytes of RAM to load from the disk is
UNTHINKABLE.  But, did either of these constraints limit
the products success?  Sometimes ignorance is bliss.

                          - Jay

aer@alice.UucP (A. E. Rosenberg) (10/15/85)

In re to the post that Commodore has a reputation to live down, because
the C64 took a horrendously long time to load programs- maybe with the
public... yes.

But Commodore isn't attaching very much of its name *at all* to the Amiga,
and the disk drive is *totally unrelated* in the Amiga to the C64.
If it *is* slow, though, as some Atarians would have us believe (didn't
act that way in the store, though) Commodore *will* have a reputation to
live down...

D. Rosnberg
..!ihnp4!alice!aer

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guest@ccivax.UUCP (What's in a name ?) (10/22/85)

> So that's why you all have thrown your C64's in the closet,
> and are chomping at the bit to buy a new Amiga.  The
> question in my mind is, have they done it again?

> After a Kaypro or other vanilla CP/M machine, waiting 3
> minutes for 64K bytes of RAM to load from the disk is
> UNTHINKABLE.  But, did either of these constraints limit
> the products success?  Sometimes ignorance is bliss.
> 
>                           - Jay

After seeing demos of Both the ST AND the AMIGA, it is obvious that
both machines are reasonably fast.  Both load 256K in 20-30 seconds,
disk access/program load time is not a major factor.  The graphics
do flicker in high-res (this could be fixed using a better scan rate).
The impressive area is the multi-tasking.