jdickson@jpl-milvax (12/08/85)
From: DICKSON, JEFF S. <jdickson@jpl-milvax> hello, It is my general feeling, from reading some of the mail on the net, that a few of the Amigians out there who placed orders for Amiga's Dedelopment Kit are disgruntled over Commodore's apparent lack of expediency in the matter. Just exactly what is the situation here? [ an impatient person likes to know these things before he plunges head first :-) ] Any of you disgruntled Amigians "laying in wait" care to reply ? How about any of you Amigians who already got theirs ? Please send responses directly to me if possible (I'll get them faster). thanks, Jeff S. Dickson JDICKSON@JPL-MILVAX.ARPA ---a picture is worth a thousand words---- ------
farmer@ISM780.UUCP (12/10/85)
> It is my general feeling, from reading some of the mail on the net, >that a few of the Amigians out there who placed orders for Amiga's Dedelopment >Kit are disgruntled over Commodore's apparent lack of expediency in the matter. I ordered my developers kit, and gave them my visa number to pay for federal express. Two weeks later, a big box came via UPS. Oh well, I was afraid they were waiting for my check to clear. Two weeks is not bad. My only complaint is that I was hoping to get the 1.1 releases of the software. The 1.0 releases that I got seem to be the same as the "beta" release that my dealer had. Also I did get the ROM kernel manual. It seems very impressive, not to mention large. The usual disclaimers apply. David Farmer
steve@wlbr.UUCP (Steve Childress) (12/18/85)
In article <38600002@ISM780.UUCP>, farmer@ISM780.UUCP writes: > > > It is my general feeling, from reading some of the mail on the net, > >that a few of the Amigians out there who placed orders for Amiga's Dedelopment > >Kit are disgruntled over Commodore's apparent lack of expediency in the matter. > > David Farmer I'm livid, Dave. I sent a chashier's check to expedite things. Two weeks later, I received the CPU, RAM expansion, and external Drive. And not one manual or diskette. Not one. Nada. Zilch. No monitor either. Worse, there's no note of explanation or a promise date. Just BO's all down the shipper's QTY column. Twelve days after that, I received the v1.0 Retail software package. No monitor, no C, no manuals, except for AbasiC. So, here I am, December 18, after mailing the order on Nov 16, with AbasiC. And the receptionist at Commodore, in answer to my query for a projected ship date, advises "call back in a week if you've received nothing." She's been instructed by an air-head. Well, Commodore-amiga, this is a certain formula for failure. To say that this is a lousy first impression of Commodore-Amiga's regard for the developers is a great understatement. Steve Childress (818) 706-5000
ec150fcy@sdcc13.UUCP (Joseph McCaughey{|stu) (12/22/85)
> > > I'm livid, Dave. I sent a chashier's check to expedite things. > > Two weeks later, I received the CPU, RAM expansion, and external Drive. > And not one manual or diskette. Not one. Nada. Zilch. No monitor either. > Worse, there's no note of explanation or a promise date. Just BO's all down > the shipper's QTY column. > > Twelve days after that, I received the v1.0 Retail software package. No > monitor, no C, no manuals, except for AbasiC. > > So, here I am, December 18, after mailing the order on Nov 16, with AbasiC. > > And the receptionist at Commodore, in answer to my query for a projected > ship date, advises "call back in a week if you've received nothing." She's > been instructed by an air-head. > > Well, Commodore-amiga, this is a certain formula for failure. > > To say that this is a lousy first impression of Commodore-Amiga's > regard for the developers is a great understatement. > > Steve Childress > (818) 706-5000 FLAME ON You know, I am getting sick of this sort of mail on the net. You mail-order something, you take your chances. I have a friend who is also a registered developer that had to wait over a month to get his development station and he never complained once. Just patiently would smile and say "It's coming soon Larry" (You see, I never believed he would really get one, he once said he was going to order a Mac and he never did). He meanwhile did all his development on the VAX at his work with only the device dependent stuff unwritten. The reason I am flaming is because it seems like a lot of people got development systems who are not going to develop one piece of marketable software at all for the Amiga. They only applied to get their Amiga at a discount. They cry about not having their Amiga to play with, but heck -- the Amiga is only needed for the implementation portion of your software package. A good software package takes a great deal of time to design. Certainly four weeks could be spent designing the overall structure of your package instead of on useless anxiety. Larry Joe MacCaughey "Soon to buy his Amiga from a DEALER -- and proud of it!!!"
knnngt@ukma.UUCP (Alan Kennington) (12/27/85)
You're lucky! I've been waiting 7 weeks for BASIC for my ST. Looks like slow delivery is inevitable when the product is new. You should just hope that your basic will read the first byte of a disk file. The ST basic doesn't. Incidentally, I'm envious of the constructive nature of discussion in this newsgroup. If I were rich I'd buy an Amiga and be constructive too!!
steve@wlbr.UUCP (Steve Childress) (01/03/86)
My gripe with Commodore/Amiga is that they lack the courtesy to enclose a form letter in the backordered shipments explaining the problem and estimating a ship date. This is only common consideration for a presumably valued customer and/or developer.