OC.TREI@CU20B.ARPA (09/25/85)
From: Peter G. Trei <OC.TREI@CU20B.ARPA> 7 Rules of thumb for reading SF-Lovers: I have been watching SF-Lovers for about 4 years now, and have also delved extensively into the archives. Certain patterns have emerged, and I thought the list might find them of interest. Rule 1: If quotations are nested to a depth greater than two, the topic has been mined out. Comments on comments on comments are of very little interest to most people (including me). Some of the discussion of Quality in SF/Dhalgren is now preceded by '>>>>' and thus the submission consists of a counter-blast to a flame against a rebuttal to an alternate opinion to a comment on Dhalgren. Does anyone, save the individuals involved, really care? The horse they are beating is not merely dead, it's fossilized. (I suppose this submission goes to another level, and is a complaint about counter-blasts to flames against rebuttals to counter-opinions to comments on Dhalgren). Rule 2: If there is a movie/book you are interested in, some jerk will submit a spoiler without a warning. (Also known as the 'But I thought EVERYBODY had seen The Prisoner.' rule). Rule 3: If you have limited storage for mail, it will be on a weekend when you are away that Saul will clear the backlog, and mail out 10 issues. This is not really a complaint, but a comment on our embarassment of riches; SFL this year is far more voluminous than last or any other year. Keep 'em coming Saul! Rule 4: Info in SFL, provided it does not fall to Rule 2, will be far more timely, and often more informative, than info from almost any other source. (Not all my rules are sarcastic). Rule 5: If a question/topic is not inextricably bound to a recently released work, SFL has probably tackled it before:- in depth. For example, SF Music was covered extensively a couple years ago, and Showscan was first mentioned around '81. The source of Sturgeon's Law appears definitively in volume 1. Inconsistancies in Niven's Known Space series were disscussed soon after Ringworld Engineers came out. Going back into the archives is often a good idea. This probably results from the average reader watching SFL only for a year or two before going on to other things. I suspect that the modal reader is a 3rd or 4th year undergrad who loses contact when he/she graduates. Rule 6: There is no Rule 6. Rule 7: Often, comments contain deeply obscure in-jokes (Also known as 'The Rule 6 Rule'). Anyone else, particularly long-time SFL'ers, have some favorite rules? 'about 30% of submissions will have a "cute" signoff' Peter Trei oc.trei@cu20b -------
oyster@uwmacc.UUCP (Vicious Oyster) (09/26/85)
<> Rule number 8: The 7 rules for reading SF-Lovers are also the rules for reading every other newsgroup.
ewan@uw-june (Ewan Tempero) (10/02/85)
Unless it's a discussion I'm particularly interested in, I "n" most Re: articles. This may result in my missing some interesting comments on some other topic but then the poster should have changed the header to reflect that...... The comment that Nothing is new in SFL ( paraphrased ) may be true ( almost certainly ) but some of us have only been around a year or so and like to partipate in "live" discussions rather than dig around archives ( assuming they exist - some poor state run universities have barely enough space for current stuff :-). End of rambling.... -- Ewan ------------ Ewan Tempero "Oh no, not again" UUCP: ...!uw-beaver!uw-june!ewan ARPA: ewan@washington.ARPA Please check all nuclear arms at the door.
showard@udenva.UUCP (showard) (10/04/85)
> From: Peter G. Trei <OC.TREI@CU20B.ARPA> > > 7 Rules of thumb for reading SF-Lovers: > ... > > Rule 6: > There is no Rule 6. > ... > Anyone else, particularly long-time SFL'ers, have some favorite rules? Rule 8: No pooftas!
jimb@ISM780B.UUCP (10/06/85)
>> Anyone else, particularly long-time SFL'ers, have some favorite rules? > Rule 8: No pooftas! I believe that's "poofters," which I believe is Aussie slang for a gay male. -- from the bewildered musings of Jim Brunet decvax!cca!ima!jimb ucbvax!ucla-cs!ism780!jimb ihnp4!vortex!ism780!jimb
ewan@uw-june (Ewan Tempero) (10/10/85)
>>> Anyone else, particularly long-time SFL'ers, have some favorite rules? >> Rule 8: No pooftas! > I believe that's "poofters," which I believe is Aussie slang for a gay male. The meaning is definiately correct, the origin...I think came from England from a long way back... -- Ewan ------------ Ewan Tempero "Oh no, not again" UUCP: ...!uw-beaver!uw-june!ewan ARPA: ewan@washington.ARPA Please check all nuclear arms at the door.
dbmk1@stc.UUCP (Derek Bergin) (10/14/85)
In article <352@uw-june> ewan@uw-june (Ewan Tempero) writes: >>>> Anyone else, particularly long-time SFL'ers, have some favorite rules? > >>> Rule 8: No pooftas! > >> I believe that's "poofters," which I believe is Aussie slang for a gay male. > >The meaning is definiately correct, the origin...I think came from England >from a long way back... The word "woofters" - a derivation of poofter - was common in Nth England at least 20 yrs ago so it's been around a fair while. (Yes the meaning is the same , and no I don't know why the word was changed, we're just awkward sods I suppose) Regards Derek !seismo!mcvax!ukc!stc!dbmk1 I've heard that re-incarnation is making a come-back. PS shouldn't this be moved to net.nlang
jimb@ISM780B.UUCP (10/17/85)
>(Yes the meaning is the same , and no I don't know why the word was changed, >we're just awkward sods I suppose) That last clause is absolutely pregnant with ambiguity. Nicely done. -- from the bewildered musings of Jim Brunet decvax!cca!ima!jimb ucbvax!ucla-cs!ism780!jimb ihnp4!vortex!ism780!jimb