[net.sf-lovers] Light-saber construction...

SRA@MIT-XX.ARPA (10/03/85)

From: Rob Austein <SRA@MIT-XX.ARPA>

The point about Sinclair monofilament and high temperatures is a good
one.  We know for a fact that a large field of Tnuctipun Sunflowers
will generate enough energy to burn/melt/whatever it through.  Shadow
square wire may be a better choice since it is demonstrably more
durable (it didn't even break when the Liar crashed into it, it just
pulled loose from its mountings). Of course it may be that shadow
square wire is really just superconducting monofilament and that it
uses the shadow squares as heat sinks.  In that case, maybe the reason
it takes training to use a lightsaber is that you have to learn how to
dispose of all that heat (via the Force, of course) before your hand
fries (now we know what happened to Darth).

The mirror itself is obviously held in position by reactionless
thrusters (which may run off of the generated heat mentioned above);
the laser beam provides navigational data for the thrusters and looks
impressive to scare off the peons.  The real cutting is done by the
monofilament.  Since the laser doesn't have to be that all high energy
for this you don't have to worry about blinding people either.

--Rob

mike@dolqci.UUCP (Mike Stalnaker) (10/04/85)

>From: Rob Austein <SRA@MIT-XX.ARPA>

>The point about Sinclair monofilament and high temperatures is a good
>one.  We know for a fact that a large field of Tnuctipun Sunflowers
>will generate enough energy to burn/melt/whatever it through.  Shadow
>square wire may be a better choice since it is demonstrably more
>durable (it didn't even break when the Liar crashed into it, it just
>pulled loose from its mountings). Of course it may be that shadow
>square wire is really just superconducting monofilament and that it
>uses the shadow squares as heat sinks.  In that case, maybe the reason

	Rob, the sinclair chain is what held when it was used in the 
Ringworld Engineers. Wu used the Shadow square wire as a backup, and the
extreme heat from the Sunflowers broke/melted/something that.  The
Sinclair chain  was the superconductor. NOT the shadowsquare wire.

--Mike

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norman@lasspvax.UUCP (Norman Ramsey) (10/19/85)

In article <340@dolqci.UUCP> mike@dolqci.UUCP (Mike Stalnaker) writes:
>	Rob, the sinclair chain is what held when it was used in the 
>Ringworld Engineers. Wu used the Shadow square wire as a backup, and the
>extreme heat from the Sunflowers broke/melted/something that.  The
>Sinclair chain  was the superconductor. NOT the shadowsquare wire.
I just read this book. Both molecule chain and superconducting thread were
used. The molecule chain borke (presumably because it overheated), while the
superconductor held (presumably becuase it was cooled by the lake to 100C).
Incidentally, real superconductors have critical fields (electric, magnetic)
beyond which they break down and are no longer superconducting. I'm sure the
same phenomenon appears in heat conduction (it has to do with an energy
level gap; once you put in enough energy from outside to excite electrons
over the gap you can have losses), so I doubt the thing is actually going to
wsustain a treemendous current without breakdown. But it's *p\ossible*.
-- 
Norman Ramsey

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