tmb@mit-prep.ARPA (Thomas M. Breuel) (06/24/86)
I recently had a chance to play around with 1.2beta. Many nice and useful features have been added. It annoyed me a bit, though, that Commodore put their copyright on the public domain version of MicroEMACS. I find this rather tasteless. Fortunately, their version doesn't seem to be any better than v30 with intuition driver. A complaint that I have about the 1.1 and 1.2 console drivers is that their handling of <Backspace> is rather simple minded and that control characters are not echoed. If you type a line containing a control character and backspace over it (or cancel it with ^X), the cursor moves back too far. If you type a line containing a TAB character, deleting the TAB with backspace won't move the cursor back to the correct position. This BUG is so obvious, looks so dilettantish, and is so easy to fix that I was assuming that it would be fixed in 1.2. It isn't. I am particularly bothered by it since I use a line oriented editor in cooked mode. Please fix it. Thomas.
jimm@amiga.UUCP (06/25/86)
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Jim Mackraz
Commodore Amigadaveh@cbmvax.cbm.UUCP (Dave Haynie) (06/25/86)
> and useful features have been added. It annoyed me a bit, though, > that Commodore put their copyright on the public domain version > of MicroEMACS. I find this rather tasteless. Fortunately, their > version doesn't seem to be any better than v30 with intuition > driver. The version of MicroEMACS has a copyright notice because its copyrighted. It descended from an old version of a public-domain MicroEmacs, I think it was called 0.1. Andy Finkel here at Commodore made extensive modifications to the program to the point where it is certainly a different program. If a program's in the public domain, you're free to use parts or all of it in your own program, whether commercial or another freebie. If the program were instead copyrighted shareware or something like that, then Andy would most likely have had to seek permission from the original author. -- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Dave Haynie {caip,ihnp4,allegra,seismo}!cbmvax!daveh A quote usually goes here, but its currently being rennovated. These opinions are my own, though for a small fee they be yours too. \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
dillon@PAVEPAWS.BERKELEY.EDU (Matt Dillon) (06/25/86)
I think the problem isn't with the console driver itself, but with amigados's handling of the console device. -Matt
mic@ut-ngp.UUCP (Mic Kaczmarczik) (06/26/86)
In article <450@cbmvax.cbmvax.cbm.UUCP> daveh@cbmvax.cbm.UUCP (Dave Haynie) writes: >> and useful features have been added. It annoyed me a bit, though, >> that Commodore put their copyright on the public domain version >> of MicroEMACS. I find this rather tasteless. Fortunately, their >> version doesn't seem to be any better than v30 with intuition >> driver. > >The version of MicroEMACS has a copyright notice because its copyrighted. >It descended from an old version of a public-domain MicroEmacs, I think it >was called 0.1. Andy Finkel here at Commodore made extensive modifications >to the program to the point where it is certainly a different program. If >a program's in the public domain, you're free to use parts or all of it in >your own program, whether commercial or another freebie. If the program >were instead copyrighted shareware or something like that, then Andy would >most likely have had to seek permission from the original author. > >Dave Haynie {caip,ihnp4,allegra,seismo}!cbmvax!daveh While I'll agree with Dave that you can do anything you want to a public domain program, including copyrighting a modified version, I think it's still rather tasteless in this case. Although Andy certainly did a lot of good work adding some useful features, the main editing system doesn't seem to have been changed a whole lot. At least that's my impression; please correct me if I'm wrong. However, I'm not going to worry about it too much. I don't use the Commodore version because 1) it opens up its own screen, which cuts down on the memory I have for editing large files, 2) it's built on an old version of the base editor, 3) the menu items have key bindings built into them (minor, since) 4) you can't bind keys. Besides, v30's latest incarnation will be showing up, hopefully some time before the end of August, with GNU compatibility and more goodies. For those of you who can't wait till then, v30 is available on one of the later Fred Fish Disks (#23??). Mic Kaczmarczik /-------------\ | /---------\ | User Services Digital Support Group | | | | University of Texas at Austin Computation Center | | | | UUCP: ...!ihnp4!seismo!ut-sally!ut-ngp!mic | \_________/ | ARPA: mic@ngp.utexas.edu \_____________/ +----------------------+ |v ----- | +----------------------+