joseph@garfield.UUCP (07/09/86)
Don't get an Amiga!!! I bought my Amiga over two Months ago. I was Planing on making a BBS on the computer. So the first thing I do is spend $120 on a set of three BOOKS. Then I try to set up a printer cable by using the books and the printer manual. The cable did not work as the book was all wrong. None of the pins were right! This Book was made by commodore and is not worth the paper it is printed on. Before I can make My BBS I need a few BASIC! (Not C!!!) peeks to check to see if the modem is ringing and to check for carrier. I used the same book but in the HEX address it has R's all over them. Now as I am only a Basic Programmer and not some Tech. from Amiga, I don't know what R's are in Hex. I am from a Sorta little City up here in Newfoundland, and we only go from A to F in HEX. (NO R's) For the LAST time PLEASE TELL me how to check for CARRIER and RING from AMIGABasic. And were can I get some GOOD books on this computer. Joseph Dawson 4 Cork Place St. John's, Nfld Canada A1B 2W4
carolyn@cbmvax.UUCP (07/11/86)
In article <1378@garfield.UUCP> joseph@garfield.UUCP (Joseph Dawson) writes: >For the LAST time PLEASE TELL >me how to check for CARRIER >and RING from AMIGABasic. >And were can I get some GOOD >books on this computer. > $BFD000 Bits 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 /DTR /RTS /CD /CTS /DSR SEL POUT BUSY I believe Compute will be publishing some books for Basic programmers. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Carolyn Scheppner -- CBM >>Amiga Technical Support<< UUCP ...{allegra,caip,ihnp4,seismo}!cbmvax!carolyn PHONE 215-431-9180 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
andy@amiga.UUCP (07/12/86)
In article <1378@garfield.UUCP> joseph@garfield.UUCP (Joseph Dawson) writes: >Don't get an Amiga!!! Sigh. I'm going to answer this anyway, even though *I* don't appreciate either the tone of voice, or the attitude. >I bought my Amiga over two Months ago. I was Planing on making a BBS >on the computer. So the first thing I do is spend $120 on a set of >three BOOKS. Then I try to set up a printer cable by using the books >and the printer manual. The cable did not work as the book was all wrong. >None of the pins were right! You might check "Intro to Amiga, page 7-12 and 7-13", for descriptions of the pinouts of the parallel and serial port. >This Book was made by commodore and is not worth the paper it is printed on. >Before I can make My BBS I need a few BASIC! (Not C!!!) peeks to check >to see if the modem is ringing and to check for carrier. If you really want out turn out a decent BBS, you really should consider learning another language. BASIC is fine for some things, but really doesn't give that much structure & modularity for large projects. But you may not consider those important. Perhaps the speed improvement you would experience would be important to you. > >I used the same book but in the HEX address it has R's all over them. >Now as I am only a Basic Programmer and not some Tech. from Amiga, I don't >know what R's are in Hex. >I am from a Sorta little City up here in Newfoundland, and we only go >from A to F in HEX. (NO R's) Well, the R in those numbers refer to a register number (from 0-F) in the 8520. >For the LAST time PLEASE TELL >me how to check for CARRIER >and RING from AMIGABasic. the port is at $BFD000 bit 7 *DTR bit 6 *RTS bit 5 *CD bit 4 *CTS bit 3 *DSR bit 2 SEL bit 1 POUT bit 0 BUSY *Active Low (its written a little confusingly, but its in the Hardware Manual, Appendix D page 1 and Appendix E page 8) You will have to PEEK() it to get the value. >And were can I get some GOOD >books on this computer. > >Joseph Dawson You also might want to consider getting a good terminal program, one without the capitalization problems that your current one obviously has. BTW, I really was tempted to answer you with comments in kind. I'm didn't, though, and just held myself (mostly) to answering your questions. Next time, however..... andy -- andy finkel Commodore(Amiga) {ihnp4|seismo|allegra}!cbmvax!andy or pyramid!amiga!andy Any expressed opinions are mine; but feel free to share. I disclaim all responsibilities, all shapes, all sizes, all colors. "Remember, no matter where you grow, there you are." - Buckaroo Bonsai.
kdd@well.UUCP (07/15/86)
In article <1406@amiga.amiga.UUCP> andy@peabody.UUCP (Andy Finkel) writes: >BTW, I really was tempted to answer you with comments in kind. I'm didn't, >though, and just held myself (mostly) to answering your questions. >Next time, however..... > Rip into the bitch... Keith Doyle ihnp4!ptsfa!well!kdd P.S. (Don's Party) I suppose it might also be helpful to mention that it would seem that the RS-232 signal RI (ring indicator) pin 22, is probably not directly readable (this is an assumption, as my hardware manual is not handy). But, if you are not using a Hayes compatible modem you can probably redirect pin 22 of the modem to the RTS or CTS pin and sense it that way. With a Hayes compatible, you simply look for a received string of 'RING', which is preferable as the RI pin will probably pulse momentarily which coulwd be missed if you happened to be busy doing something else. (and this is a multi-tasking OS remember).
elg@usl.UUCP (07/17/86)
In article <1378@garfield.UUCP> joseph@garfield.UUCP (Joseph Dawson) writes: >I bought my Amiga over two Months ago. I was Planing on making a BBS >on the computer. So the first thing I do is spend $120 on a set of >three BOOKS. Then I try to set up a printer cable by using the books >and the printer manual. The cable did not work as the book was all wrong. >None of the pins were right! >This Book was made by commodore and is not worth the paper it is printed on. >Before I can make My BBS I need a few BASIC! (Not C!!!) peeks to check >to see if the modem is ringing and to check for carrier. > My gawd, how does this person even manage to log onto a UNIX system? If the Commodore docs are that horrible in his estimation, how horrible would the UNIX docs be? The Amiga docs are practically unreadable, but then I have never seen a single technical document for a computer that was readable. Children who dabble in BASIC shouldn't try to program, they might strain something or otherwise hurt themselves. Commodore can be excused for producing their technical documentation for "C" programmers, because it's impossible to write professional-quality software in interpretive BASIC, and it's professional-quality software that will make or break the Amiga. For one thing, Joe Bloe's BBS wouldn't even keep up with 1200 baud, without him adding some "C" or machine language support to the thing. -- --------Mandatory quote:------------ "The only way I can lose this election is if I'm caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy." -- Louisiana governor Edwin Edwards ------------------------------------ Eric Green {akgua,ut-sally}!usl!elg (Snail Mail P.O. Box 92191, Lafayette, LA 70509)
acs@amdahl.UUCP (07/19/86)
In article <814@usl.UUCP> elg@usl.UUCP (Eric Lee Green) writes: > In article <1378@garfield.UUCP> joseph@garfield.UUCP (Joseph Dawson) writes: > >I bought my Amiga over two Months ago. I was Planing on making a BBS > >on the computer. So the first thing I do is spend $120 on a set of > >three BOOKS. Then I try to set up a printer cable by using the books > >and the printer manual. The cable did not work as the book was all wrong. > >None of the pins were right! > >This Book was made by commodore and is not worth the paper it is printed on. > >Before I can make My BBS I need a few BASIC! (Not C!!!) peeks to check > >to see if the modem is ringing and to check for carrier. > > > > Children who dabble in BASIC shouldn't try to program, they might > strain something or otherwise hurt themselves. Commodore can be > excused for producing their technical documentation for "C" > programmers, because it's impossible to write professional-quality > software in interpretive BASIC, and it's professional-quality software > that will make or break the Amiga. For one thing, Joe Bloe's BBS > wouldn't even keep up with 1200 baud, without him adding some "C" or > machine language support to the thing. Seems to me that this is simply a case of misinformation being purveyed to an "innocent" would-be user. Since one can write a fair BBS for the IBM-PC in BASIC it does seem reasonable that a similar thing could be done with the Amiga. Methinks that Mr. Dawson would be much better off flogging his dealer. BTW I wouldn't say that the AmigaBASIC documentation is all that great. -- Tony Sumrall ...!{ihnp4,hplabs,seismo,sun}!amdahl!acs [ Opinions expressed herein are the author's and should not be construed to reflect the views of Amdahl Corp. ]