andrew@alberta.UUCP (07/14/86)
I have a bunch of questions, and any answers would be greatly
appreciated. I'm using a 512K Amiga (Great machine, guys!), 2 disk
drives (actually 3 if you count the 5.25"), and Lattice C 3.02.
1. First off, I was trying to use the Motorola Fast Floating Point
library a couple of days ago, and found I was missing the files
"mathlink.lib" and "mathlink_lib.lib", so I have no way of linking to
the library routines. The question : where can I get these files?
I've already checked with two dealers in the area, and they don't have
them. (The salesman didn't even know what the MFFP was.) Just out of
curiosity, where were they supposed to be, if anywhere? Would it be
possible for some kind soul mail them to me, or would this action
bring the Net Police and the phone cops down on (me/us/everyone)?
2. A related matter, what happened to DiskEd and ATOM and such things?
Shouldn't they have come with Lattice C? Or are they only for
registered developers?
3. Does anyone out there have a spare handler for the 5.25" disk drive,
i.e. one that would allow me to use it as an AmigaDOS device? I've
read the relevant sections of the RKM, but I thought I'd check before
reinventing the wheel. How about any information on using the thing to
read other disk formats?
4. Does anyone have any information about 3.5" disk formats more detailed
than is found in the technical reference? (Where on the disk is the
root block located? What are the actual values of the block Type and
Secondary Type?)
5. Does anyone out there have any documentation for microEMACS v 0.7?
6. Has anyone tried Turbo Pascal yet? What's the verdict?
7. Finally, what is Lattice's upgrade policy? (Who do I write to and how
much will it cost me?)
Again, any answers would be very much appreciated.
--
Andrew Folkins ...ihnp4!alberta!andrew
All ideas in this message are fictional. Any resemblance, to any idea,
living or dead, is purely coincidental.rossi@cbmvax.cbm.UUCP (Lisa Rossi) (07/17/86)
In article <17@alberta.UUCP> andrew@alberta.UUCP (Andrew Folkins) writes: > > I have a bunch of questions, and any answers would be greatly > appreciated. I'm using a 512K Amiga (Great machine, guys!), 2 disk > drives (actually 3 if you count the 5.25"), and Lattice C 3.02. > > >1. First off, I was trying to use the Motorola Fast Floating Point > library a couple of days ago, and found I was missing the files > "mathlink.lib" and "mathlink_lib.lib", so I have no way of linking to > the library routines. The question : where can I get these files? > I've already checked with two dealers in the area, and they don't have > them. (The salesman didn't even know what the MFFP was.) Just out of > curiosity, where were they supposed to be, if anywhere? Would it be > possible for some kind soul mail them to me, or would this action > bring the Net Police and the phone cops down on (me/us/everyone)? > The files mathlink.lib and mathlink_lib.lib do not exist. You must open one or more of the following libraries - mathtrans.library (for FFP transcendental math functions), mathffp.library (for FFP basic math functions), or mathieeedoubbas.library (for IEEE Double precision math functions). I will also warn you of one other problem - The variables used for FFP math are defined as ints. You can not use FLOATs because Lattice V3.03 converts FLOAT to DOUBLE during expression evaluation and when passing arguments. The public domain Fred Fish series disk has a program called latffp.c which shows how to access the libraries and functions. If you do not have it, the kludge below will show you basically what must be done. The following section of code was taken from the latffp.c program on one of the Fred Fish public domain disks. here goes.... char st1[80] = "3.1415926535897"; char st2[80] = "2.718281828459045"; int MathBase; /* Basic FFP lib pointer */ int MathTransBase; /* Transcendental FFP lib pointer */ int dots_good = 0; union kludge1 { FLOAT num1; int i1; } k1; union kludge2 { FLOAT num2; int i2; } k2; union kludge3 { FLOAT num3; int i3; } k3; show_dot() {if(++dots_good == 1000) {dots_good = 0; printf(".");}} show_result(num) FLOAT num; {printf("\nResult = %f",num);} show_result_ffp(in_val); /* convert to IEEE and display */ int in_val; { union kludge_sr { FLOAT new_iv_f; int new_iv_il; } k; k.new_iv_i = SPTieee(in_val); show_result(k.new_iv_f); } main() { /* Always test to make sure the libraries open correctly - I'm being lazy. */ MathBase = OpenLibrary("mathffp.library",0); MathTransBase = OpenLibrary("mathtrans.library",0); /* FFP SPADD */ k1.num1 = PI; /* V1.0 lattice C BUG! Can't have */ k2.num2 = k1.num1-PIME; /* two constant assignments in a */ /* row. Fake it by making the */ /* second and expression. */ printf("\n\n50,000 additions of %s to %s (Compiler Interface)\n",st1,st2); for(dots_good = 0, i = 1; i < 50000; i++) { k3.num3 = k1.num1 + k2.num2; show_dot(); } show_result(k3.num3); k1.i1 = SPFieee(k1.i1); k2.i2 = SPFieee(k2.i2); printf("\n\n50,000 additions of %s to %s (Function Interface)\n",st1,st2); for(dots_good = 0, i = 1; i < 50000; i++) { k3.i3 = SPAdd(k2.i2, k1,i1); show_dot(); } show_result_ffp(k3.i3); } that's all there is to it ....wow >2. A related matter, what happened to DiskEd and ATOM and such things? > Shouldn't they have come with Lattice C? Or are they only for > registered developers? > No, they do not come with Lattice C. They are however being distributed to developers who purchase the developers kit. >3. Does anyone out there have a spare handler for the 5.25" disk drive, > i.e. one that would allow me to use it as an AmigaDOS device? I've > read the relevant sections of the RKM, but I thought I'd check before > reinventing the wheel. How about any information on using the thing to > read other disk formats? > Don't know of anyone who has done this. >4. Does anyone have any information about 3.5" disk formats more detailed > than is found in the technical reference? (Where on the disk is the > root block located? What are the actual values of the block Type and > Secondary Type?) > The root block is the center block of the disk 880. As far as I know the values of the block type and secondary type are undocumented. >5. Does anyone out there have any documentation for microEMACS v 0.7? > nope. >6. Has anyone tried Turbo Pascal yet? What's the verdict? > haven't tried it. >7. Finally, what is Lattice's upgrade policy? (Who do I write to and how > much will it cost me?) > I'm not sure, your best bet would be to call Lattice. -- ************************************************************************* Lisa Rossi-Siracusa Commodore Business Machines uucp: {ihnp4|seismo|caip}!cbmvax!rossi arpa: cbmvax!rossi@seismo.css.GOV or rossi@cbmvax.UUCP@{seismo|harvard} tel : (215) 431-9180 *************************************************************************
nick@hp-sdd.UUCP (Nick Flor) (07/17/86)
In article <17@alberta.UUCP> andrew@alberta.UUCP (Andrew Folkins) writes: > >1. First off, I was trying to use the Motorola Fast Floating Point > library a couple of days ago, and found I was missing the files > "mathlink.lib" and "mathlink_lib.lib", so I have no way of linking to > the library routines. The question : where can I get these files? > I've already checked with two dealers in the area, and they don't have > them. (The salesman didn't even know what the MFFP was.) Just out of > curiosity, where were they supposed to be, if anywhere? Would it be > possible for some kind soul mail them to me, or would this action > bring the Net Police and the phone cops down on (me/us/everyone)? There is no mathlink.lib. Also, you're going to have trouble using it because of the way C pushes things on the stack/casts things. Mail me if you have trouble using it. Nick -- ---------- Nick V. Flor ..hplabs!hp-sdd!nick "What's going down in this world, you got no idea. Believe me." The Comedian
andy@amiga.UUCP (Andy Finkel) (07/17/86)
In article <17@alberta.UUCP> andrew@alberta.UUCP (Andrew Folkins) writes: > >3. Does anyone out there have a spare handler for the 5.25" disk drive, > i.e. one that would allow me to use it as an AmigaDOS device? I've > read the relevant sections of the RKM, but I thought I'd check before > reinventing the wheel. How about any information on using the thing to > read other disk formats? > You'll be able to do things with it under 1.2. >5. Does anyone out there have any documentation for microEMACS v 0.7? That sounds like a real early version of the microEmacs I'm hacking for C/A. We've got docs for the current version. Not only am I not sure how close the command set for that one is to the current version, but I'm also not sure what the release path for it is going to be, either (for the docs or for the program). Sorry. Does it help it I say the key bindings probably match Gosling's Emacs ? Also, many (many!) other versions of MicroEmacs have floated over the net in recent months. Maybe there's one floating at your site... >Andrew Folkins ...ihnp4!alberta!andrew andy -- andy finkel Commodore(Amiga) {ihnp4|seismo|allegra}!cbmvax!andy or pyramid!amiga!andy Any expressed opinions are mine; but feel free to share. I disclaim all responsibilities, all shapes, all sizes, all colors. "Remember, no matter where you grow, there you are." - Buckaroo Bonsai.
kim@mips.UUCP (Kim DeVaughn) (07/19/86)
[ "Send lawyers, guns, and money ..." ] > >6. Has anyone tried Turbo Pascal yet? What's the verdict? > > > haven't tried it. > Lisa Rossi-Siracusa Andrew's question and Lisa's reply imply that TurboPascal has been released for the Amiga. Is this true??? As far as I know, Borland has yet to make good on their advertised "promise" to support the Amiga with Turbo Pascal. They have also stopped advertising Turbo for the Amiga. Anybody seen *anything* from them (Alpha, Beta, ...)? /kim -- UUCP: {decvax,ucbvax,ihnp4}!decwrl!mips!kim DDD: 408-720-1700 x231 USPS: MIPS Computer Systems Inc, 930 E. Arques Av, Sunnyvale, CA 94086 CIS: 76535,25
haddock@ti-csl (07/19/86)
/* Written 12:50 pm Jul 14, 1986 by andrew@alberta.UUCP in ti-csl:net.micro.amiga */ /* ---------- "A Bunch of Questions" ---------- */ > I have a bunch of questions, and any answers would be greatly > appreciated. I'm using a 512K Amiga (Great machine, guys!), 2 disk > drives (actually 3 if you count the 5.25"), and Lattice C 3.02. I'll answer a couple of 'em. >3. Does anyone out there have a spare handler for the 5.25" disk drive, > i.e. one that would allow me to use it as an AmigaDOS device? Wait for Version 1.2. This will be a standard feature (the ability to use 5.25" floppies given the correct interface). >5. Does anyone out there have any documentation for microEMACS v 0.7? Hmmmm... I thought 3.7 was the latest. >6. Has anyone tried Turbo Pascal yet? What's the verdict? In case you haven't heard, Borland has decided against porting Turbo Pascal to the Amiga. >Again, any answers would be very much appreciated. To the best of my knowledge and news sources my answers are true. -Rusty- ================================================================ *hardcopy* *electr{onic, ic}* Rusty Haddock ARPA: Haddock%TI-CSL@CSNET-RELAY.ARPA POB 226015 M/S 238 CSNET: Haddock@TI-CSL Texas Instruments Inc. USENET: {ut-sally,convex!smu,texsun}!ti-csl!haddock Dallas, Texas 75266 VOICE: (214) 995-0330
andrew@cadomin.UUCP (Andrew Folkins) (07/22/86)
In article <563@mips.UUCP> kim@mips.UUCP (Kim DeVaughn) writes: > >> >6. Has anyone tried Turbo Pascal yet? What's the verdict? >> > >> haven't tried it. >> Lisa Rossi-Siracusa > >Andrew's question and Lisa's reply imply that TurboPascal has been released >for the Amiga. Is this true??? > >As far as I know, Borland has yet to make good on their advertised "promise" >to support the Amiga with Turbo Pascal. They have also stopped advertising >Turbo for the Amiga. > >Anybody seen *anything* from them (Alpha, Beta, ...)? > >/kim Followup from the original poster : My question was based entirely on an ad I saw in the July/August issue of Amiga World. On page 93 NorthEastern Software is advertising "Turbo Pascal $42". As everything else on the page is for the Amiga, it would seem that this is too. The question : does NorthEastern actually have this thing, or is this Yet Another Vapor Ware Product? Disclaimer stuff : I am in no way affiliated with, indebted to, or presiding over NorthEastern Software or Borland International. -- Up here in the Great White North we run SNOBOL. -- Andrew Folkins ...ihnp4!alberta!andrew "We humans think of ourselves as being rather good at reasoning, but at best we perform about a hundred logical inferences a second. We're talking about future expert systems that will be doing ten million inferences a second. What will it be like to put a hundred years thought in every decision? Knowledge is power." - Edward A. Feigenbaum