[net.micro.amiga] 68020/68881 platform board

sjf@cs.reading.ac.uk (Steve Fisher) (08/13/86)

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 We are thinking of building a card for our Amiga based on
the Motorola application note 'A 68020/881 Platform board
for evaluation in a 16 bit system.'
 We would like to hear from anyone who has already done
this and of any software conversions and patches that are
available for the Amiga.
 Also can anyone say whether there is any software ( public
domain or otherwise ) which will enable the full 68020/881
mnemonics to be used in assemblers and compilers for the
Amiga.
                        Thanks in advance,
-- 
//  --   Steve Fisher   Micro. Unit. Computer Science Dept.
\\ |--        &                                      >  Reading University
//.||.   Shawn Fraser   Cybernetics Dept.

grr@cbmvax.cbm.UUCP (George Robbins) (08/19/86)

In article <43@onion.cs.reading.ac.uk> sjf@onion.cs.reading.UUCP (Steve Fisher) writes:
>
> We are thinking of building a card for our Amiga based on
>the Motorola application note 'A 68020/881 Platform board
>for evaluation in a 16 bit system.'
> We would like to hear from anyone who has already done
>this and of any software conversions and patches that are
>available for the Amiga.
>
>//  --   Steve Fisher   Micro. Unit. Computer Science Dept.
>//.||.   Shawn Fraser   Cybernetics Dept.

In general, this is a viable approach, and in fact there were several of
these boards discussed in this group a few months back.  One was made by
and outfit known as CSA.

I don't know their current status.

The Amiga is supposed to contain the basic software hooks to take care of
68000/68010/68020 compatability, but I've never heard anything as far as
68881 support.

-- 
George Robbins - now working with,	uucp: {ihnp4|seismo|caip}!cbmvax!grr
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Commodore, Engineering Department	fone: 215-431-9255 (only by moonlite)

flocchini@ucdavis.UUCP (flocchini) (08/19/86)

> In article <43@onion.cs.reading.ac.uk> sjf@onion.cs.reading.UUCP (Steve Fisher) writes:
> >
> > We are thinking of building a card for our Amiga based on
> >the Motorola application note 'A 68020/881 Platform board
> >for evaluation in a 16 bit system.'
> > We would like to hear from anyone who has already done
> >this and of any software conversions and patches that are
> >available for the Amiga.
> >
> >//  --   Steve Fisher   Micro. Unit. Computer Science Dept.
> >//.||.   Shawn Fraser   Cybernetics Dept.
> 
> In general, this is a viable approach, and in fact there were several of
> these boards discussed in this group a few months back.  One was made by
> and outfit known as CSA.
> 
> I don't know their current status.
> 
> The Amiga is supposed to contain the basic software hooks to take care of
> 68000/68010/68020 compatability, but I've never heard anything as far as
> 68881 support.
> 
> -- 
> George Robbins - now working with,	uucp: {ihnp4|seismo|caip}!cbmvax!grr
> but no way officially representing	arpa: cbmvax!grr@seismo.css.GOV
> Commodore, Engineering Department	fone: 215-431-9255 (only by moonlite)

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CSA can be reached at the following address
Computer System Associates
7564 Trade St.
San Diego, CA 92121
619 566-3911
Contact Patricia Chouinard

CSA has developed an expansion box that supports their 68020/681 board
they have also developed 32-bit fast ram for the expansion box and their
board. they include some hand coded 68881 examples for demos.
fortran for this board is available from absoft corp(suppoets 68881)
and the next version of manx c is suppose to have 68881 support.

the people at csa are friendly knowledgable and super supportive.

bob flocchini
ucdavis
ucdavis!deneb!flocchini

cjp@vax135.UUCP (Charles Poirier) (08/19/86)

In article <43@onion.cs.reading.ac.uk> sjf@onion.cs.reading.UUCP (Steve Fisher) writes:
>
> We are thinking of building a card for our Amiga based on
>the Motorola application note 'A 68020/881 Platform board
>for evaluation in a 16 bit system.'

The CSA 68020/68881 board is alive and runs well.  A developer I know 
has one.  Word is that Manx' next release of Aztec C will have a
68881 support option.  Word is that treatment of the 881's floating
point registers during multitasking will be fixed in Amiga release 1.2.
(I do not work for or represent CSA, Manx, Amiga, or anyone else.)

	Charles Poirier

jerem@tekgvs.UUCP (Jere Marrs) (08/22/86)

In article <651@cbmvax.cbmvax.cbm.UUCP> grr@cbmvax.UUCP (George Robbins) writes:
>In article <43@onion.cs.reading.ac.uk> sjf@onion.cs.reading.UUCP (Steve Fisher) writes:
>>
>> We are thinking of building a card for our Amiga based on
>>the Motorola application note 'A 68020/881 Platform board
>>for evaluation in a 16 bit system.'
>> We would like to hear from anyone who has already done
>>this and of any software conversions and patches that are
>>available for the Amiga.
>>
>>//  --   Steve Fisher   Micro. Unit. Computer Science Dept.
>>//.||.   Shawn Fraser   Cybernetics Dept.
>
>In general, this is a viable approach, and in fact there were several of
>these boards discussed in this group a few months back.  One was made by
>and outfit known as CSA.
>
>I don't know their current status.

	CSA is making what is known as the Turbo Amiga expansion box which
plugs into the side connector on the Amiga. It will accept five plug-in 
boards including:

		1. A 68020/68881 board (14.~ MHz bus)
		2. A 512kByte 32-bit RAM board
		3. An SCSI interface board
		4. Room for a 20MB SCSI HD in the box (they can supply)
		
	They are phasing out their "piggyback" board ("A"-type) because
of certain internal inconsistencies of the Amigas they have installed them in.
They still have some in stock along with 32-bit RAM to fit with the piggyback.
The Turbo AMiga box is shipping and selling from backorder. Shipping is
30-40 days ARO.

	Having no connection with CSA, I am,

					Jere M. Marrs
					Tektronix, Inc.
					Beaverton, OR

wtm@neoucom.UUCP (Bill Mayhew) (08/26/86)

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Hi,

	I just got the Sept. issue of Byte.  In the What's New
column on page 31, there is a picture of the CSA expansion chassis.
The price is $5475.  That's right --- Gaaak!  The features are as
previously described.  I guess that would make sense if one imagines
the Amiga itself as a fancy terminal for the CSA box.

	Actually, if multitasking is more important than one high
bandwidth task, buying 6 Amigas (about the same cost) seems like
the way to go.

  --Bill

Bill Mayhew
Northeastern Ohio Universities' College of Medicine
Rootstown, OH  44272   USA    (216) 325-2511
(wtm@neoucom.UUCP)

hamilton@uiucuxc.CSO.UIUC.EDU (08/27/86)

>	I just got the Sept. issue of Byte.  In the What's New
>column on page 31, there is a picture of the CSA expansion chassis.
>The price is $5475.  That's right --- Gaaak!  The features are as
>previously described.  I guess that would make sense if one imagines
>the Amiga itself as a fancy terminal for the CSA box.

    the $5,475 price includes expansion chassis, 68020+68881 board,
512K 32-bit-wide static RAM, SCSI host adapter, AND 20MB disk; ie,
the top-of-the-line.  you can get the parts unbundled.  purchased
separately, the same configuration totals $5,675.  the june 1 price
list gives:
	$895	expansion box with 5 slots, 100W PS, cooling fan
	650	SCSI adapter
	850	20MB winchester & controller
	1,480	68020+68881 cpu board (piggy-back or expansion chassis)
	975	68020 cpu board (piggy-back or expansion chassis)
	575	68020 cpu board w/o 68020 (piggy-back only)
	1,800	512K 32-bit static RAM
	1,230	256K 32-bit static RAM
	720	unpopulated RAM board(?)

	wayne hamilton
	U of Il and US Army Corps of Engineers CERL
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swalton@well.UUCP (Stephen R. Walton) (08/28/86)

In article <261@neoucom.UUCP> wtm@neoucom.UUCP (Bill Mayhew) writes:
>
>	I just got the Sept. issue of Byte.  In the What's New
>column on page 31, there is a picture of the CSA expansion chassis.
>The price is $5475.  That's right --- Gaaak!  The features are as
>previously described.

You misunderstood the ad.  $5475 is the price for a complete "Turbo
Amiga" which includes an Amiga, a CSA expansion box, the 14 MHz
68020/68881 board, 1 MB (or 2?) extra memory, and a 20 MB hard disk.
The expansion box alone is only $995.
     I have no connection with CSA--just wanted to set the record
straight.

ricker@bunker.UUCP (ricker) (09/02/86)

In article <1687@well.UUCP> swalton@well.UUCP (Stephen R. Walton) writes:
>...$5475 is the price for a complete "Turbo
>Amiga" which includes an Amiga, a CSA expansion box, the 14 MHz
>68020/68881 board, 1 MB (or 2?) extra memory, and a 20 MB hard disk.
>The expansion box alone is only $995.

I also misunderstood the ad. Does anybody have any idea about the prices of the
other pieces?

			68020/68881 board		$?
			Extra Memory			$?
			20 Mb hard disk			$?