[net.micro.amiga] Amiga Modems

curtis@gitpyr.UUCP (Curtis Crowson) (09/08/86)

	Alright, once again I must ask.... What is happening with the
Amiga specific modems?  Last word was the 1200RS was to be out begining
of August with the AmigaTerm terminal program.  Where is it?!?  Answermate
lost one of its programmers, but that was quite a while ago.  What is its
status?!?  I'm looking for a modem with the features of the Answermate, but
I can't get any information on when it will be ready, or when it MIGHT be
ready.
	Come on C-A, when can we EXPECT these products to be released?

Laterness,
--Curtis

grr@cbmvax.cbm.UUCP (George Robbins) (09/11/86)

In article <2222@gitpyr.UUCP> curtis@gitpyr.UUCP (Curtis Crowson) writes:
>
>	Alright, once again I must ask.... What is happening with the
>Amiga specific modems?  Last word was the 1200RS was to be out begining
>of August with the AmigaTerm terminal program.  Where is it?!?  Answermate
>lost one of its programmers, but that was quite a while ago.  What is its
>status?!?  I'm looking for a modem with the features of the Answermate, but
>I can't get any information on when it will be ready, or when it MIGHT be
>ready.
>

Well, believe it or not, the Amiga Modem 1200RS a.k.a. 1680, was actually
shipped several weeks ago, and has been seen in the local computer specialty
stores!!!

As I understand it, the list price is around $200, so you may want to shop
around for a good price or a dealer who is willing to make some kind of
package deal.

Check with your dealer and see what the status is from their point of view,
as they may need a little prodding...

-- 
George Robbins - now working with,	uucp: {ihnp4|seismo|caip}!cbmvax!grr
but no way officially representing	arpa: cbmvax!grr@seismo.css.GOV
Commodore, Engineering Department	fone: 215-431-9255 (only by moonlite)

walker@sas.UUCP (Doug Walker) (09/11/86)

In article <2222@gitpyr.UUCP>, curtis@gitpyr.UUCP (Curtis Crowson) writes:
> 
> 	Alright, once again I must ask.... What is happening with the
> Amiga specific modems?  
Why do you want an Amiga-specific modem anyway?  It would be much more
flexible to have a generic Hayes-compatible 1200 or 2400 baud modem
which most any computer system would support than to lock yourself
into an Amiga-specific modem.  No, I don't have any plans right now
to get rid of my Amiga, but with the typical active life of home
computer systems, a modem could carry you through two or three
systems!

dillon@CORY.BERKELEY.EDU (Matt Dillon) (09/11/86)

	I wouldn't bother with any 'amiga specific' modems..  There's nothing
special about a 'commodore' modem.  In fact, specialized modems are often years
behind in technology.  For instance, Commodore only recently introduced 1200
baud 'specialized' modems.  Even on-card modems for the ibm-pc have lagged 
behind stand-alones.

	I'll take a standalone 2400 baud modem, thank you, and as soon as
9600's become standardized, I'll take one of those to.

						-Matt

curtis@gitpyr.UUCP (Curtis Crowson) (09/15/86)

In article <170@sas.UUCP> walker@sas.UUCP (Doug Walker) writes:
>In article <2222@gitpyr.UUCP>, curtis@gitpyr.UUCP (Curtis Crowson) writes:
>> 
>> 	Alright, once again I must ask.... What is happening with the
>> Amiga specific modems?  
>Why do you want an Amiga-specific modem anyway?  It would be much more
>flexible to have a generic Hayes-compatible 1200 or 2400 baud modem
>which most any computer system would support than to lock yourself
>into an Amiga-specific modem.  

The 'Amiga specific' modems (like the Answermate) were to take advantage
of the special features of the Amiga....Well that's what I heard.  Sure, 
I could buy any stand alone modem, but why not get something that could
accept push-button tones and pass them along to the Amiga (Tecmar) so that
you could have a program that could accept user input using the phone keypad,
or one that could save/retrieve digitized messages for use as an answering
machine (Answermate/Commodore).  The 1200RS was just added in my discussion
since I was still curious about when it would be released.  I have been 
informed that IT is currently available from dealers.  I have also been
told (as a rumor) that the Answermate project has been abandoned.

--Curtis Crowson                       {pick-a-root}!gatech!gitpyr!curtis

"After all, if you're going to walk on thin ice, you might as well dance."

hamilton@uiucuxc.CSO.UIUC.EDU (09/15/86)

>> 	Alright, once again I must ask.... What is happening with the
>> Amiga specific modems?  

>Why do you want an Amiga-specific modem anyway?  It would be much more
>flexible to have a generic Hayes-compatible 1200 or 2400 baud modem
>which most any computer system would support than to lock yourself
>into an Amiga-specific modem.

    back when there was some confusion about amiga's ability to
digitize sound (ie, when we thought maybe it could), it looked like
you could do more with an amiga and a phone than mere datacomm.
i had notions of a very fancy programmable phone answering machine.
native digitizing is out, but you could still have amiga synthesize
voice output over the phone.  you could interface the amiga to your
burglar alarm/smoke detector and have it automatically call the
police/fire dept (or a neighbor, or your office, or...).  with a
little added gadgetry, it could detect in-coming touch-tones to
allow for interaction.  you don't absolutely need an amiga-specific
modem to do these, but it might have been handy.

	wayne hamilton
	U of Il and US Army Corps of Engineers CERL
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grr@cbmvax.cbm.UUCP (George Robbins) (09/16/86)

In article <2254@gitpyr.UUCP> curtis@gitpyr.UUCP (Curtis Crowson) writes:
>
>The 'Amiga specific' modems (like the Answermate) were to take advantage
>of the special features of the Amiga....Well that's what I heard.  Sure, 
>I could buy any stand alone modem, but why not get something that could
>accept push-button tones and pass them along to the Amiga (Tecmar) so that
>you could have a program that could accept user input using the phone keypad,
>or one that could save/retrieve digitized messages for use as an answering
>machine (Answermate/Commodore).  The 1200RS was just added in my discussion
>since I was still curious about when it would be released.  I have been 
>informed that IT is currently available from dealers.  I have also been
>told (as a rumor) that the Answermate project has been abandoned.
>
>--Curtis Crowson                       {pick-a-root}!gatech!gitpyr!curtis

Clarification:

The Amiga-Modem 1200 RS aka 1680 is Amiga related, but not Amiga specific.
It works just fine on PC, terminals and wherever else RS232 modems are
appropriate.

There's nothing really special about it beyond the Amiga name.  It is
however, Commodores first stand-alone RS232 modem.  All previous modems
were siamesed to a VIC, C64 or whatever.

The answermate project is on hold, not specifically dead, although the cobwebs
are getting pretty thick.  It does take advantage of some of the Amiga's
features.  I would be interested in hearing how irresistable a computer
controlled answering machine/modem/voice thingie would be, and whether you
would really want to leave your amiga turned on all the time to service the
unit...
-- 
George Robbins - now working for,	uucp: {ihnp4|seismo|caip}!cbmvax!grr
but no way officially representing	arpa: cbmvax!grr@seismo.css.GOV
Commodore, Engineering Department	fone: 215-431-9255 (only by moonlite)

chapman@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Brent Chapman) (09/17/86)

In article <739@cbmvax.cbmvax.cbm.UUCP> grr@cbmvax.UUCP (George Robbins) writes:
>In article <2254@gitpyr.UUCP> curtis@gitpyr.UUCP (Curtis Crowson) writes:
>The answermate project is on hold, not specifically dead, although the cobwebs
>are getting pretty thick.  It does take advantage of some of the Amiga's
>features.  I would be interested in hearing how irresistable a computer
>controlled answering machine/modem/voice thingie would be, and whether you
>would really want to leave your amiga turned on all the time to service the
>unit...

Why wouldn't we want to leave the Amiga on?  Most people I know (myself
included) with Amigas never bother to turn them off, unless they have a
major crash, or something like that.  (BTW, isn't it better to leave
micro-type equipment turned on anyway, assuming it is sufficiently
ventilated?  Something about reducing stress on components from heat
expansion and contraction...)

The Answermate was one of the things that really sounded neat when I
first started thinking about the Amiga (over a year ago, now?  I guess
so..  Gee, how time flies...  :-).


Brent
--

Brent Chapman

chapman@cory.berkeley.edu	or	ucbvax!cory!chapman

jat@blnt1.UUCP (09/18/86)

In article <739@cbmvax.cbmvax.cbm.UUCP> grr@cbmvax.UUCP (George Robbins) writes:
>...  I would be interested in hearing how irresistable a computer
>controlled answering machine/modem/voice thingie would be, and whether you
>would really want to leave your amiga turned on all the time to service the
>unit...
>-- 
>George Robbins - now working for,	uucp: {ihnp4|seismo|caip}!cbmvax!grr
>but no way officially representing	arpa: cbmvax!grr@seismo.css.GOV
>Commodore, Engineering Department	fone: 215-431-9255 (only by moonlite)

I was very interested in buying one, so now I am building my own with a touch
tone decoder chip from Radio Shack and a few miscellaneous parts.  The only
problem I have is that I need a hard disk for this thing to be usable as an
answering machine.  Until then, it will just be a cute gadget.

John Tamplin					Blount Brothers Corporation
akgua!blnt1!jat					2511 Fairlane Drive
205/244-6231					Montgomery, AL  36116

curtis@gitpyr.UUCP (Curtis Crowson) (09/20/86)

>The Answermate was one of the things that really sounded neat when I
>first started thinking about the Amiga (over a year ago, now?  I guess
>so..  Gee, how time flies...  :-).
>
>Brent Chapman
>
>chapman@cory.berkeley.edu	or	ucbvax!cory!chapman

I definately had some use for the Answermate in my 'business'.  It doesn't
look like the wait (maybe forever) will justify the purchase of a regular
answering-type machine though.  Too bad.  It would have added just a little
more to the jazziness and class of the Amiga.

Laterness,
--Curtis Crowson

walker@sas.UUCP (Doug Walker) (09/22/86)

In article <739@cbmvax.cbmvax.cbm.UUCP>, grr@cbmvax.cbm.UUCP (George Robbins) writes:
> features.  I would be interested in hearing how irresistable a computer
> controlled answering machine/modem/voice thingie would be, and whether you
> would really want to leave your amiga turned on all the time to service the
> unit...

There is one major problem with using the Amiga as an answering machine or bbs
or anything else requiring that it be left on.

In my neighborhood, we have 'brownouts' every couple of days bad enough to make
my microwave oven lose track of time.  Every week or so we have one bad enough
to take out an Amiga.  What happens when the power comes back on?  The Amiga
cheerfully checks the disk in DF0:, discovers that it's not kickstart, and
then refuses do do ANYTHING until a real human has inserted the kickstart
disk.  We can't even leave kickstart in the drive because then the Amiga won't
be able to find workbench!

Why, oh why, can't the Amiga look on DH0: or DF1: for workbench instead of
insisting that it be in DF0:?