[net.micro.amiga] More: Amiga vs the Mac

ali@navajo.STANFORD.EDU (Ali Ozer) (09/25/86)

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Just this morning I was talking to someone, a Mac user. I mentioned
the Amiga, and the person said "oh, what an awful machine." I said,
"really, what don't you like about it?" His reply was "oh the characters
are so big and ugly." I asked him when and for how long he used one,
and his reply was that he saw it recently at a dealer's window...

Come on people, that's not the right approach to something new! "Big and
ugly characters" do not make up the Amiga. You can change fonts, change 
colors, change resolution. In fact, most games and demo programs use lowres
text, just so they can run fine on a normal TV monitor!

Most Amiga users have played with or used Macs sometime in their lives. After
all, the Mac came out much earlier, and is really a great machine! I remember
being very impressed with MacDraw, with the voice synthesis programs, etc.

Most Mac users (and even some dealers) however, talk about the Amiga without
even having laid hands on one. In the last three weeks three people have
have told me that they were interested in buying computers, preferably
some sort of a Mac (Plus or 512K), which they were already familiar with. But,
after I gave them a 2-hour demo of what the Amiga can do, they were totally
convinced that the Amiga is the better machine for their needs. I did not show
them fancy things just to impress them with sounds and color... I showed them
Emacs, I showed them how one useful multitasking is, I showed them a lot of
the public domain software that's out, etc. 

These were all either CS people or people who were interested in programming
the computer they would get. And I believe the Amiga is seriously a better 
choice for anyone who enjoys using their computer as more than just
an appliance.

So, Mac owners, before you rag on the Amiga, go see one in action. And not
one at a dealer's window. Just get a friend to show you what it can do.

Ali Ozer

ed@plx.UUCP (Ed Chaban) (09/26/86)

> So, Mac owners, before you rag on the Amiga, go see one in action. And not
> one at a dealer's window. Just get a friend to show you what it can do.
> 
> Ali Ozer


How about what it CAN,T do

Like run Microsoft EXCEL........

Ed Chaban 
Plexus Computers Inc.
(Still an amiga owner)
Phone: (408) 943-2226
Net: sun!plx!ed

carolyn@cbmvax.cbm.UUCP (Carolyn Scheppner) (09/27/86)

In article <855@navajo.STANFORD.EDU> ali@navajo.ARPA (Ali Ozer) writes:
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>Just this morning I was talking to someone, a Mac user. I mentioned
>the Amiga, and the person said "oh, what an awful machine." I said,
>"really, what don't you like about it?" His reply was "oh the characters
>are so big and ugly." I asked him when and for how long he used one,
>and his reply was that he saw it recently at a dealer's window...

   Tell him the characters are tiny and cute on a 9 inch screen.

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acs@amdahl.UUCP (Tony Sumrall) (09/27/86)

In article <278@plx.UUCP> ed@plx.UUCP (Ed Chaban) writes:

> > So, Mac owners, before you rag on the Amiga, go see one in action. And not
> > one at a dealer's window. Just get a friend to show you what it can do.
> > 
> > Ali Ozer
> 
> 
> How about what it CAN,T do
> 
> Like run Microsoft EXCEL........
> 
> Ed Chaban 
> Plexus Computers Inc.
> (Still an amiga owner)
> Phone: (408) 943-2226
> Net: sun!plx!ed

How about what NEITHER the Mac nor the Amiga can do...run CHKDSK?  C'mon
already!  Cut out the net.computer wars, huh.  I know you're upset Ed but
will ya just give it a break.  I had nothing to do with your unfortunate
experience (yes, I'm *truly* sorry that it happened to you) but do *I*
have to suffer this constantly?  And everyone else that's getting in on
this my-computer-is-better-than-your contest, CUT IT OUT, please!  This
discussions *was* quite useful but it has really degenerated.  Sheesh!
-- 
Tony Sumrall                    ...!{ihnp4,hplabs,seismo,sun}!amdahl!acs

[ Opinions expressed herein are the author's and should not be construed
  to reflect the views of Amdahl Corp. ]

tdn@spice.cs.cmu.edu (Thomas Newton) (09/28/86)

> How about what it CAN,T do
>
> Like run Microsoft EXCEL........

Not to downplay the Mac here, but I suspect that a lot of the Mac applications
that people mention as "proof" of the Mac's superiority (such as LightSpeed C)
would be just as happy running on an Atari ST or an Amiga as on a Mac. Whether
these programs will ever be seen running on an Atari or an Amiga has much more
to do with marketing (it might be harder to charge $300-$400 for a spreadsheet
when selling to ST owners than when selling to Mac owners) and manpower issues
than to tit-for-tat comparisons of the different machines.

                                        -- Thomas Newton

srp@houligan.UUCP (Steve Pietrowicz) (10/02/86)

>> So, Mac owners, before you rag on the Amiga, go see one in action. And not
>> one at a dealer's window. Just get a friend to show you what it can do.
>> 
>> Ali Ozer
>
>
>How about what it CAN,T do
>
>Like run Microsoft EXCEL........
>
>Ed Chaban 
>Plexus Computers Inc.
>(Still an amiga owner)
>Phone: (408) 943-2226
>Net: sun!plx!ed

If you're so much against the Amiga, sell it and quit complaining about it.
We're sick and tired of hearing you complain that you bought a machine that
you didn't investigate well enough in the first place, and aren't happy
with now.
-- 
S. R. Pietrowicz                          |   // The Amazing Amiga
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