[net.micro.amiga] More thoughts on terminal programs

john13@garfield.UUCP (10/06/86)

You miss the line eater. The li

Well, I finally compiled DBW's vt100 program. The code that gave Lattice
the screaming heebie-jeebies was accepted with open arms by Manx (after
switching the #define). All I can say is....NICE JOB! I doubt that I will
ever need to use another term program, ever again.

Good points: Kermit, Xmodem (I haven't tried it, but I would expect it to
be more reliable than the last-10-line devouring xmodem program that I have
been using), Ascii transfers, selectable gulping of extra CR's or LF's,
settable colours, settable # lines on the screen <= 48, and a pseudo-
language for script files, so you can have it try multiple numbers and
log you in when it gets through, for example.

Better points: Haven't found a single thing it doesn't do that a VT100 will.
This includes the scrolling regions that make it difficult to play hack or
rogue on other emulators (Gizterm, Digital Link, and Online! that I've tried).
It does insert/delete lines or characters properly in vi, which the above 3
all require you to do a ^L after to make the screen look nice.

Bad points: People who don't have it may be driven to distraction trying
to compile it if they're current term programs introduce junk into down-
loaded files, or truncate them.

Unique point: It doesn't claim a higher rate than it can go at. I have seen
menu selections for 57K baud on terminal emulators that updated the screen
at about 1200 baud. Of course, the line would hold, but massive flow
control was needed. DBW's vt100 claims only up to 9600 baud, at which it
performs quite well, thank you.

John Russell
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Disclaimer: All opinions are, of course, my own.

hamilton@uiucuxc.CSO.UIUC.EDU (10/14/86)

john russell says:
>Unique point: It doesn't claim a higher rate than it can go at. I have seen
>menu selections for 57K baud on terminal emulators that updated the screen
>at about 1200 baud. Of course, the line would hold, but massive flow
>control was needed. DBW's vt100 claims only up to 9600 baud, at which it
>performs quite well, thank you.

    actually, i'm going to add 19.2K and 38.4K to vt100 and see how well
they work.  i can't talk to my vax at those speeds (my leased line only
has 9600 baud modems), but i have this AT sitting next to my amiga...
amiga-kermit(4d(060)) talks to ms-kermit(2.29jrd) at 38.4K without
dropping packets, tho the thruput is only ~680 bytes/sec.  this is still
better than running at 9600, where thruput is down to ~450 bytes/sec.
it's time for sliding windows!

	wayne hamilton
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