[net.sf-lovers] Man in the Rubble

flory@zaphod.UUCP (Scrapfaggot Green) (09/29/85)

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Hello All;
	I am looking for a particular flavour of story --usually to 
	be found in the SF genre-- and would like to receive whatever 
	information or recommendations anyone might care to pass along.

	In my youth I read a story which I think was called
	_A_boy_and_his_Dog_.  Whatever the title really was the
	story had your basic post-apocalypse, all-hell-broke-loose
	type of setting.  The story was a little violent, a little
	gruesome, but made fascinating reading.  I have thought of
	the tale may times over the years and have since found cause
	to remember it once again:  the series of Mad Max movies have
	a somewhat similar theme (decay, greed, fear, violence).
	Though I personally feel that the Max flicks are thin in
	terms of plot that is not really the point; the desolation
	of the setting, the thematic elements of primitive fear and
	survival and the overall air of malaise are the elements I
	am specifically looking for.  So ...
	
	I seek good post-apocalypse stories that have the
	same ``gone to hell in a hand basket'' feel as _A_boy_ and
	the Max flicks.  Civilization crippled and dying; Man lost
	in the rubble; morality worn and discarded like old clothes;
	survival the only law.  What man does in this environment is
	up to you the recommender.

	I think it best that recommendations be sent to me at the
	usenet address below.  If there seems to be sufficient
	interest then I will post a summary of recommended works.

	Thank you.

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Slocum.CSCDA@HI-MULTICS.ARPA (10/11/85)

From: Slocum@HI-MULTICS.ARPA

> Galapagos.  Kurt Vonnegut.  Still in hardback.

Don't forget Cat's Cradle by same author.  A wry, witty end-of-the-world
yarn which introduces my favorite substance, Ice-nine.

    Brett Slocum

Morton@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU (10/17/85)

From: "Morton Jim"@LLL-MFE.ARPA


 I have not seen Warday listed in the discussion of "Man in the rubble"
stories.   While this book does not encompass the amount of destruction
that would be caused by either the U.S. or  S.U.  using half or more of
their available nuclear weapons,  the scenarios described in the book
are believable descriptions  of  the United States after a small to
medium small  scale attack.
     *********< Slight  Spoiler  Warning >*********

    The book describes the observations  and collected interviews made
by two  journalsts  traveling  across America  five years after  a
limited nuclear war between the Soviet Union and the United States. 
    The attack mode of the Soviets  included effective use of EMP 
generated by pre-deployed thermonuclear weapons  aboard communication
sattelites  which were commanded out of their normal positions and 
into  positions  most usefull for dropping their nuclear cargo. This
single phase of the attack was responsible for  the fragmentation of 
the United States into  several regions of independent political power.
    In addition to the EMP attack,  a  more conventional Nuclear attack
was effected for New York City,  Washington D.C., San Antonio Tx, and
the Minuteman missile fields  througout the midwest.  These attacks 
caused significant  loss of  life,   disease  and  hunger.  
    Several  ideas explored in the book  include the Triage of people
with  excessive lifetime exposure to radiation, with people turning to
alternative forms of medical treatment ( witches  faith-healers etc).
Also,  the aid provided  by foriegn countries  to the U.S. (and S.U.)
and the way these countries were taking advantage of the condition of 
the superpowers to further their own national goals.  The way that 
various states  controlled immigration was also explored.  

    All in all  i found the book enjoyable, and was exposed to concepts
i had not considered before.  
            Jim  Morton   

RAAQC997%CUNYVM.BITNET@WISCVM.ARPA (11/05/85)

From: RAAQC997%CUNYVM.BITNET@WISCVM.ARPA

     In a prior memo I stated that the "Book of Swords" trilogy
spanned 2 millenia, they do not. They span approx. 20 yrs. The
reason for confusion is that some of the characters are from a
book pre-dating this trilogy called "The Empire of the East"
(also by saberhagen). The "Sword" trilogy offers a conclusion to
previous events.

Aaron W.
RAAQC997%CUNYVM.BITNET@WISCVM.ARPA