west@gargoyle.UUCP (Steve Westfall) (01/26/86)
What is your opinion of this??? *** NOWHERE *** in their advertizing or promotional literature that I have seen, and nowhere in their C-Isam manual (including the license agreement), does Relational Database Systems, Inc. ("RDBS") ever state that applications programmers who use their C-Isam file management product (i.e., link it with code that they are going to sell) must pay royalties to RDBS. But recently during a phone conversation with someone at RDBS it was incidentally mentioned that I am using C-Isam with my applications programming. I was then informed that I must sign a royalty agreement and send RDBS $2500.00 before I can sell my program to anyone ($25.00 for each of the first 100 copies I will sell) I have no objection to paying royalties to RDBS, and I am about to put the check in the mail, but I am concerned that, with their royalty policy mentioned nowhere in their literature, I will be paying them royalties while others in a similar situation (my competitors) will not pay because no one ever told them they had to! Does RDBS have the right to ask for royalties when they don't publicize it? Steve Westfall uucp: ihnp4!gargoyle!west Infotronx, Inc. 159 W. Roosevelt Rd. Phone: 312-231-6054 (ofc) West Chicago, IL 60185
johnl@ima.UUCP (01/27/86)
/* Written 10:02 pm Jan 25, 1986 by west@gargoyle in ima:net.database */ > *** NOWHERE *** in their advertizing or promotional literature that I > have seen, and nowhere in their C-Isam manual (including the license > agreement), does Relational Database Systems, Inc. ("RDBS") ever > state that applications programmers who use their C-Isam file management > product (i.e., link it with code that they are going to sell) > must pay royalties to RDBS. But recently during a phone > conversation with someone at RDBS it was incidentally mentioned > that I am using C-Isam with my applications programming. > I was then informed that I must sign a royalty agreement and send > RDBS $2500.00 before I can sell my program to anyone What does the licensing agreement that comes with C-Isam actually say? If it's like most such licenses, it says that you can only use it on one machine, that the thought police will crush you if you even consider giving it to anybody else and so forth. So you were pretty optimistic to think that you could redistribute it for free. On the other hand, it is certainly true that many other C application libraries do indeed let you redistribute them for free, and it seems tacky that RDBS doesn't make their policy clear. I suspect that if they took somebody to court for unauthorized redistribution it would be an interesting case. By the way, RDBS's policy is a lot better than some. Take the IBM Graphics Development Toolkit. There is no redistribution scheme at all -- every user of code developed with it has to get his own copy of the Toolkit. Same for the Topview Programmer's Toolkit, in the unlikely event you wanted to develop a Topview application. John Levine, ima!johnl