[mod.rec.guns] .32 H&R Mag, .444 vs .45-70, 7-30 Waters reloading info

jordan@greipa.UUCP (Jordan K. Hubbard) (08/19/85)

Article: 8:5

Someone was asking if anyone else besides Ruger manufactured handguns in
the new 32H&R Mag. H&R makes three models and Charter Arms makes a double 
action revolver in that caliber.

Earlier someone was asking for an opinion on .444 Marlin vs. .45-70.
It depends on whether the person intends to handload the cartridges.
Factory loads for 45-70 are purposely kept anemic for the weak actions
of the 1873 Springfields and 1886 Winchesters.  444 Marlin doesnt have
this problem and comes from the factory loaded to potential.  However,
44 cal bullets are designed for handgun velocities and their jackets are
thinner and they tend to come apart early when they strike an object
at higher velocities (the 265 grain bullet loaded by Remington in the
444 was touted as designed expressly for the 444 so it might be stronger).
Handloaders can have a ball with the 45-70 due to the wide variety of
bullets available and the stronger marlin action will allow heavier
powder charges.  A 45-70 Ruger or Siamese M98 mauser owner can load them
up even hotter (35,000 ft. lbs. of muzzle energy). 
 		[ That was me, thanks Woody! - jh]

I have just purchased a 7-30 Waters barrel for my T/C Contender.
Does anyone have any loading data for the 7-30 Waters caliber?
It's a 30-30 necked down to take a 7MM bullet and was designed by
Ken Waters and published in Handloader magazine a while back but
I don't have a copy.  If anyone has some loading data I would appreciate
it if you could e-mail it to me.  

Thanks, Woody
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