mikevp@proper.UUCP (Mike Van Pelt) (10/29/84)
RE: Harlan Ellision? I suppose if what you like is termainally depressing unrelieved morbidness, Ellision is the writer for you. Personally, I would rather read something that has at least one little glimmer of humanness somewhere in it.
render@uiucdcs.UUCP (11/02/84)
{You can't have everything--where would you put it?}
Regarding the recent note concerning the "morbidity" and lack of humanity of
Harlan Ellison, I find it hard to believe that anyone who has read any fair
share of his work could question his feeling for people. Admittedly some of
his stories are grim (i.e. "I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream") and most
exhibit a cynical view of the human race, but it obviously stems from his deep
concern for the poor way in which we present ourselves as a supposedly wise
and caring species. Such works as "Jeffty is Five" and "Repent! Harlequin,
Cried the Ticktockman" are warm, funny and supremely humane, while still
challenging us to better ourselves. I would much rather read the works of a
man who dares us to be what we should, as opposed to the stories of many
authors who merely congratulate us on being such a grand folk.
Comments, anyone?
Hal Render
U. of Illinois
(uiucdcsb!render)mwm@ea.UUCP (11/02/84)
/***** ea:net.sf-lovers / proper!mikevp / 11:49 pm Oct 30, 1984 */ RE: Harlan Ellision? I suppose if what you like is termainally depressing unrelieved morbidness, Ellision is the writer for you. Personally, I would rather read something that has at least one little glimmer of humanness somewhere in it. /* ---------- */ "Looking for Kadak" (sp?) terminally depressing unrelieved morbidness? Much of what Ellison writes is depressing, but *all* of it makes me think. I like that; that's why I like Ellison. <mike
yteitz@aecom.UUCP (Yosef Teitz) (11/06/84)
> RE: Harlan Ellision? > > I suppose if what you like is termainally depressing unrelieved morbidness, > Ellision is the writer for you. Personally, I would rather read something > that has at least one little glimmer of humanness somewhere in it. If you want humanity...try his stories: 1. Looking for Kadak--in Approaching Oblivion 2. The 3 Most Important Things in My Life--in Stalking the Nightmare. If you want others...just ask. yair griver... logging on as yteitz @ aecom --Don't care if you got no legs...DANCE ON YO' KNEES!!--
bes@drutx.UUCP (Sizer) (11/06/84)
Now that all you Ellison fans have come out of the closet so to speak, I have a question for you. I have heard that the novel upon which the movie A_Boy_and_His_Dog is based was written by Ellison. The book has a rather bizarre title that I can never seem to remember correctly, something like: Do_Androids_Dream_of_Electric_Sheep?. Can anyone help me? Please email your replies. I'll post the answer to the net (these multiple answers are making my n-finger grow callus). Bruce Sizer Denver, CO
hsut@ecn-ee.UUCP (11/08/84)
The movie is based on Ellison's novella "A Boy And His
Dog". The story won a nebula and has been anthologized many times.
It can be found in collections of nebula-winning stories, Ellison's
"The Beast That Shouted Love At The Heart of the World and other
stories", and numerous other books. The movie is easily obtainable
on videotape and follows the story rather closely. The punch line
at the end of the movie (not in the novella) is offensive to
people with no stomach for puns...
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? is a novel by
Philip K. Dick. The movie based on DADOES is Blade Runner, a vastly
superior movie to A Boy And His Dog. I've seen both movies several
times and enjoyed them immensely.
Bill Hsu
pur-ee!hsutchuqui@nsc.UUCP (Zonker T. Chuqui) (11/08/84)
In article <11700028@ea.UUCP> mwm@ea.UUCP writes: >I suppose if what you like is termainally depressing unrelieved morbidness, >Ellision is the writer for you. Personally, I would rather read something >that has at least one little glimmer of humanness somewhere in it. If this is what you want, I suggest Kurt Vonnegut instead. Harlan does have a warmer side (Repent, Harlequin! comes to mind) although even then he bites. Vonnegut is unrepentently depressing. So is Heller, for that matter. chuq -- From the Department of Bistromatics: Chuq Von Rospach {cbosgd,decwrl,fortune,hplabs,ihnp4,seismo}!nsc!chuqui nsc!chuqui@decwrl.ARPA I'd know those eyes from a million years away....
jimb@amd.UUCP (Jim Budler) (11/09/84)
In article <drutx.1370> bes@drutx.UUCP writes: >Now that all you Ellison fans have come out of the closet so to speak, >movie A_Boy_and_His_Dog is based was written by Ellison. The book has >a rather bizarre title that I can never seem to remember correctly, >something like: Do_Androids_Dream_of_Electric_Sheep?. Can anyone help I don't know much about Ellison but 'Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep' was by Philip K. Dick and is the basis of Bladerunner. -- Jim Budler Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. (408) 982-6547 UUCPnet: {ucbvax,decwrl,ihnp4,allegra,intelca}!amd!jimb Compuserve ID: 72415,1200
barry@ames.UUCP (Kenn Barry) (11/09/84)
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I have a question: a number of people have mentioned a "writer's
block" in connection with Ellison's delays getting LAST DANGEROUS VISIONS
to the publishers. Since it's now been about 10 years since the original
date announced for the publication of LDV, and since Ellison has written
MANY stories in the last decade, my question is this: WHAT writer's block?
Does it only affect his writing of introductions to other people's stories?
This question is not meant sarcastically; perhaps such a specialized
sort of writer's block is possible. I am genuinely curious if anyone
has any hard information on this. Can anybody help?
- From the Crow's Nest - Kenn Barry
NASA-Ames Research Center
Moffett Field, CA
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Electric Avenue: {dual,hao,menlo70,hplabs}!ames!barrydavison@bnl.UUCP (daniel burton davison) (11/12/84)
> In article <drutx.1370> bes@drutx.UUCP writes: > >Now that all you Ellison fans have come out of the closet so to speak, > >movie A_Boy_and_His_Dog is based was written by Ellison. The book has > >a rather bizarre title that I can never seem to remember correctly, > >something like: Do_Androids_Dream_of_Electric_Sheep?. Can anyone help > > I don't know much about Ellison but 'Do Androids Dream of Electric > Sheep' was by Philip K. Dick and is the basis of Bladerunner. > -- > Jim Budler > Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. > (408) 982-6547 > UUCPnet: {ucbvax,decwrl,ihnp4,allegra,intelca}!amd!jimb > Compuserve ID: 72415,1200 *** REPLACE THIS LINE WITH YOUR MESSAGE *** The story that "A Boy and His Dog" came from was "Blood's a rover"; it's in one of the numerous ellison collections, perhaps a nth Dangerous Vision. I heard him read "Blood's a rover" at a con a while ago; it was *very* effective. dan davison uucp: ..decvax!philabs!sbcs!bnl!davison arpa: davison@bnl
psal@othervax.UUCP (11/12/84)
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National Lampoon has come out with a pastiche of Frank Herbert's 'Dune.'
Does anyone know if it's any good (i.e. as good as their 'Bored of the Rings'
by Kenny and Beard) or if it's just semi-smut? By the way, it's called 'DOON'.
-C.Thoms Weinbaum von Waldenthalkalash@ucbcad.UUCP (11/13/84)
> The story that "A Boy and His Dog" came from was "Blood's a rover";
Nope, the movie "A Boy and His Dog" came from the story
"A Boy and His Dog". The story "Blood's a Rover" is a sequel (or maybe
a prequel) written after "A Boy and His Dog".
Joe Kalash
kalash@berkeley
ucbvax!kalashmark@uf-csg.UUCP (mark fishman [fac]) (11/14/84)
The movie, "A Boy and His Dog," was based upon a *novella* by Ellison, the title of which was (astonishingly enough!), "A Boy and His Dog." "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?" was a novel by Philip K. Dick, the cinematic version of which you'll hprobably have seen, or at least seen mentioned (it wasn't so obscure as "A Boy and His Dog"). It was called, "Blade Runner," and starred Harrison Ford and a cast of special effects. ---------------------- "Of course I know what love is: A boy loves his dog." ---------------------- -- The opinions herein expressed are irrelevant, inflammatory and possibly fattening. They do not represent those of the University of Florida or of any known biological organism or mythical construct.
chuqui@nsc.UUCP (Cheshire Chuqui) (11/19/84)
In article <630@ames.UUCP> barry@ames.UUCP (Kenn Barry) writes: >[] > > I have a question: a number of people have mentioned a "writer's >block" in connection with Ellison's delays getting LAST DANGEROUS VISIONS >to the publishers. The article I used as a basis for my comments is from Locus #283. The following excerpts should clarify things: [from Harlan Ellison, Back From the Depths; Locus #283, used without permission] Harlan Ellison, after 10 years of massive writer's block, is working again and finally finishing old projects, thanks to a little help from his friends. "When I turned forty, something happened to my metabolism. I have always had a peculiar metabolism-- I don't use drugs or drink because I can't. Ten years ago I took on major projects: The Last Dangerous Visions, The Harlan Ellison Hornbook, and a lot of other books that haven't come out. I was only halfway through when the trouble worsened." Ellison developed uncontrollable rages, leg tremors at night, insomnia, memory loss, lack of sex drive, and trouble concentrating. Although he was still able to crank out the occasional short story, his other projects all came to a halt. Finally he read an article in New York magazine on Endogenous Depression. Unlike emotional depression, which results from outside causes, this is due to a biochemical imbalance. Five years of specialists, tests, drugs, and $30,000 later, they decided his illness was unique and incurable. "I am still sick, but now when I feel the lassitude I slap my face to get the adrenalin going and work up my anger. I am working every day." -- From the Department of Bistromatics: Chuq Von Rospach {cbosgd,decwrl,fortune,hplabs,ihnp4,seismo}!nsc!chuqui nsc!chuqui@decwrl.ARPA This plane is equipped with 4 emergency exits, at the front and back of the plane and two above the wings. Please note that the plane will be travelling at an average altitude of 31,000 feet, so any use of these exits in an emergency situation will most likely be futile.
colonel@gloria.UUCP (George Sicherman) (11/20/84)
["Dirty un-American Venusian alien! Take that!"] > Now that all you Ellison fans have come out of the closet so to speak, > I have a question for you. I have heard that the novel upon which the > movie A_Boy_and_His_Dog is based was written by Ellison. The book has > a rather bizarre title that I can never seem to remember correctly, > something like: Do_Androids_Dream_of_Electric_Sheep?. Can anyone help > me? Please email your replies. I'll post the answer to the net (these > multiple answers are making my n-finger grow callus). > > > Bruce Sizer > Denver, CO "Blade Runner" was based on Philip K. Dick's _Do Androids ..._. If I remember right, the movie "A Boy and his Dog" was based on a novella of the same name. -- Col. G. L. Sicherman ...seismo!rochester!rocksanne!rocksvax!sunybcs!gloria!colonel
cracraft@isi-vaxa.ARPA (11/09/85)
From: Stuart Cracraft <CRACRAFT@ISI-VAXA.ARPA> Does anyone know how I can reach him, either by phone or by mail, either to him or his publisher? He lives in California. Does anyone know what city? Stuart -------