[mod.rec.guns] Gun museums and home defense

jkh@ucbjade.BERKELEY.EDU (Jordan K. Hubbard) (10/24/85)

Comments in response to a couple recent postings:

One arms museum I liked was the John M. Browning museum at Rock Island Arsenal
(located on an island in the Mississippi between Rock Island, IL and
Davenport, Iowa). I worked at RIA for a year, back when the command there
was called "Weapons Command" (a much more impressive name than the current
acronym, which I can't even find in my DoD phone book at the moment...).
The Arsenal has a lot of historic buildings, and is open to the public.
One of these buildings houses this museum, which had a lot of neat 
weaponry back in '67-'68, when I was there. I used to spend a lot of 
lunch periods drooling over all the toys...

(There are a lot of other arms-oriented museums [musea?] at Army 
installations all over the country. Most posts have a PR office that
can send you brochures or at least describe what public-access displays
they have.)

And for home defense, and the .45 vs 9mm controversy: For those whose
regional situation makes getting a pistol difficult [legally], there are
a lot of pistol-caliber semiauto carbines available and which can be
purchased as "rifles", in legal terms, with much less paperwork than a
pistol requires, usually only requiring the BATF form at time of purchase.
These are midway in size between a handgun and a rifle, usually with folding 
stocks to keep them short. Of course, you can buy folding stocks or
pistol grips for many rifles or shotguns that also shorten them, but
these carbines fire pistol-caliber ammo, which doesn't have the
penetration problems that rifle-caliber ammo will create. Unfortunately,
most of the interesting models of this genre were made in 9mm only, and
we have already seen comments about how 9mm penetrates excessively (for
home defense use) when fired in a pistol; the problem is exacerbated
when you fire it from a 16-inch barrel.

The solution, then, is to get a .45 caliber carbine. The commonest one
of these was the semi-auto Thompson, or the Commando Arms sort-of-lookalike
model. These are rather heavy, which probably doesn't mean much if you
aren't going to carry it around, and does add a lot of stability (I once
had the opportunity to fire a for-real Thompson full-auto; the weight
and slow cyclic rate made it easy to hold on target for long bursts).
These don't have folding stocks, though, and lose the desired compactness.
The latest Guns and Ammo magazine, though, has an article on a gun that
might be the ideal solution -- a .45 caliber Uzi. (For those with 9mm Uzis,
a retrofit conversion kit is also available.) I would give it some while
for the new model to get any functioning bugs worked out, but then this
might be the ideal compromise in terms of legal availability, size,
safety, and effectiveness. (I still lean toward a shotgun as a better
choice, and most are certainly cheaper, but if you want something else,
check this Uzi out. There is also something to be said for the
intimidating appearance of these paramilitary models [but then people
also speak of the intimidating appearance of the large bore of a shotgun
pointed at you...].)

I never bought an Uzi carbine, because I am prejudiced against lugging a gun
about as big and heavy as a rifle for only 9mm semi-auto output (the real
full-auto models are a different matter, and I have no dispute with their
battle-proven effectiveness). I am leaning toward getting one in .45,
though, just for grins...

Will Martin

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