[mod.rec.guns] firearms

jkh@jade.BERKELEY.EDU (Jordan K. Hubbard) (11/07/86)

Article: 11:8


Rumor has it that restrictions on ordering ammuntion without a license
will be removed this month.  Anyone will be able to receive shipments
of ammo without a dealer's license.

Am I misinformed?  Could this be true?

Woody

jkh@jade.BERKELEY.EDU (Jordan K. Hubbard) (11/07/86)

Article: 11:9



This weekend I had the opportunity to examine and shoot a friend's
SKS semi-auto rifle.  It's made in China and shoots 7.62x39 ammo.
Although I thought it a little heavy for the cartridge it was very
pleasant and fun to shoot.  No jams or mechanical failures.  Shooting
was all offhand at informal targets (cans).  My questions are:

Has anyone seen/used one before?  What is your impression of the
quality/reliability of the weapon?  Since we did no accuracy tests,
What kind of groups can one expect at 100 yards from a rest?
Are there scope mounts available for them?  Is the semi-auto
version of the AK-47 (AKS ?) that much better?  Which would you
buy given the choice of SKS or AKS.  Is the AKS worth twice the
price of the SKS?  Any body have reloading data for the 7.62x39
round?  I understand that some of the brass is not reloadable
by our primer standards.  Which brands are reloadable?

Thanks for any help.
Woody

jkh@jade.BERKELEY.EDU (Jordan K. Hubbard) (01/11/87)

Article: 1:16


[ Hey, Woody, what's a .47-70?? Are you sure you don't have a .45-70?
  (and if so, what do you think of it)  - jh (da moderata) ]

>The author states that for a given revolver, the point
>of impact is the same for all bullets of the same weight
>regardless of velocity.  Heavier bullets strike higher and
>lighter bullets strike lower because of muzzle rise during
>recoil.  Higher velocity requires more force but this is
>cancelled out because it acts on the bullet in the barrel
>for a shorter duration.  Higher velocity does result in
>less drop due to gravity during the bullet's travel to the
>target, but this is insignificant at handgun ranges.

>Does anyone want to comment on this, based on either theoretical
>or empirical considerations?
This sounds possible, although I haven't tested the same conditions.
I have noticed that when I shoot bullets at different velocities out my
.47-70 I will get different points of impact.  400 grain cast bullet
at 1200FPS will strike 8-10" HIGHER than a 350 grain jacketed bullet
at 2200FPS.  This, I am told, is due to barrel time.  The instant the
powder charge is ignited the barrel starts recoiling back and the
muzzle up.  It would make sense that the longer the bullet stayed
in the barrel (due to lower velocity) the more time the barrel would
have to redirect the bullet's path.