susan@lmef.UUCP (susan) (10/25/85)
Salutations! Has anyone ever heard of Robotech? It just recently started playing here in the afternoons, and.... I'm hooked. Some questions I have: 1. Is it new 2. Does it come in comic-book form (if so, where can I get it?) 3. Does anyone watch it beside me...has anyone HEARD of it besides me? I would love to hear from anyone having ANY info on this animated sf series. A lonely Micronian & Centratti fan....(sp may be wrong) *susan*
bobh@pedsgd.UUCP (Bob Halloran) (10/29/85)
In article <149@lmef.UUCP> susan@lmef.UUCP (susan) writes: > Has anyone ever heard of Robotech? >It just recently started playing here in the afternoons, and.... >I'm hooked. > >Some questions I have: > > 1. Is it new > 2. Does it come in comic-book form (if so, where can I > get it?) > 3. Does anyone watch it beside me...has anyone HEARD of it > besides me? 1)) It's new in THIS country; it is a translation of (I gather) a three- part Japanese series; Macross (What I'm seeing here in NYC metro on Sat mornings 7:30AM; having to get up w/ toddlers on weekends has its advantages :-) ), Southern Cross, and Orguss. It has been reviewed somewhat in net.comics; general opinion is that it is probably the best of the 'giant robot' cartoon series brought over from Japan. 2)) Yes, it IS available in comic form; the closing credits for the episodes I see say as much. However, since the publisher (Comico) is one of the independents, you probably have to find a comics specialty shop in order to get them. I have seen three titles on the shelves; 'Robotech - The Macross Saga', 'Robotech Masters' and 'Robotech - The New Age (?)'. Try an inquiry in net.comics about mail-order or where you might find it locally. 3)) As I said, getting up with little ones on weekends has its pluses. :-) Bob Halloran Sr MTS, Perkin-Elmer DSG ============================================================================= UUCP: {decvax, ucbvax, most Action Central}!vax135\ {topaz, pesnta, princeton}!petsd!pedsgd!bobh USPS: 106 Apple St M/S 305, Tinton Falls NJ 07724 DDD: (201) 758-7000 Disclaimer: My opinions are my own. Quote:"BOO! We changed Coke again! BLEAH! BLEAH!" - The Boogums, 'Bloom County'
jody@inuxd.UUCP (JoLinda Ross) (10/29/85)
> Salutations! > > Has anyone ever heard of Robotech? > It just recently started playing here in the afternoons, and.... > I'm hooked. > > Some questions I have: > > 1. Is it new > 2. Does it come in comic-book form (if so, where can I > get it?) > 3. Does anyone watch it beside me...has anyone HEARD of it > besides me? > > I would love to hear from anyone having ANY info on this > animated sf series. > > A lonely Micronian & Centratti fan....(sp may be wrong) > > *susan* I don't know how old the series is, but I saw it in Hawaii in May and June of this year. It seeme to me that I came in on the middle of the story. Even so I became hooked very quickly, and was upset because I could not see them all (Robotech is not show in Indpls.). That is all I know about it; I hope it helps. Joland Old English for "land of the sunrise"
ciaraldi@rochester.UUCP (Mike Ciaraldi) (10/31/85)
> Salutations! > > Has anyone ever heard of Robotech? > It just recently started playing here in the afternoons, and.... > I'm hooked. > > Some questions I have: > > 1. Is it new > 2. Does it come in comic-book form (if so, where can I > get it?) > 3. Does anyone watch it beside me...has anyone HEARD of it > besides me? > > I would love to hear from anyone having ANY info on this > animated sf series. > > A lonely Micronian & Centratti fan....(sp may be wrong) > > *susan* Aha! Robotech strikes again! This has shown up in net.comics before, but the basic answers to your questions are the following: 1) Robotech is actually three Japanese animated series from the same company, reshuffled somwhat and dubbed into English by an American company, Harmony Gold. The three Japanese sereis were called MACROSS, SOUTHERN CROSS, and MOSPEADA. Two were in the same "universe" and the other wasn't, but has been rescripted to make it compatible. They are considered quite good examples of Japanimation. Each of the series has roughly 30 epsiodes, for a total of about 90. As rescripted into English, the 3 series relate like this: Macross is the first. It concerns an alien spaceship which crashed on Earth a long time ago. Earthlings finally figure out how to run it, and are just getting it ready for its first flight when the Zentraedi arrive. The ship (called SDF-1 for "Space Defense Fortress", I think) comes to life and attacks the aliens, and the Earthlings are plunged into battle. 20 years later, aliens attack again, and again Earthlings in battle armor and convertible vehicles defend the Earth. I don't know whwere the term "Southern Cross" fits in, but I remember a reference to "The Army of the Southern Cross". Another 20 years later (I think), there is another invasion, and the Earth is overwhelmed. As Mospeada opens, our hero crashlands in Central America and has to make his way to the former USA and Earth HQ. As I understand it, there is less space battle in this one. 2) Comico--The Comic Company is publishing the entire Robotech series in comic book form (there is a line in the closing credits to that effect). They are publishing it as three interlocking series. ROBOTECH--The MACROSS SAGA covers the first set of episodes, ROBOTECH MASTERS is the middle set, and ROBOTECH--THE NEW GENERATION is the final set. Because the whole series is so long, and being shown at different rates in different parts of the country, the comics publishing sachedule is a little funny. Each of the 3 series publishes a new issue every 6 weeks (nominally, anyway), staggered so a new episode hits the stores every 2 weeks. Each series does its 30 or so consecuitve epsiodes in the same number (i.e. 30 or so) of issues. So, Macross Saga has about 6 issues out so far (the very first issue was called simply MACROSS, without "Robotech"), adapting the first 6 episoded. Masters has about 3 issues, adapting the first 3 episodes of Southern Cross, or what appears to the unsuspecting TV viewer as episodes 31-33 of Robotech, and New Generation similarly has aboyut 3 issues out. So, where do you get them? Comico I think sells only throughj comics stores and certain magazine stores, not regular newsstands or 7-11's. All three series are also avaialble from Comico by subscription, or from comics stores that sell mail order. If your local comics shop doesnt have back issues, try a biggie like Bud Plant in CA. 3) Does anyone else watch them? I habve been reading all the issues, but finally last week saw my very first episode, discussed in the next news item. I hope this was helpful, and I hope I didn't get too many facts wrong, since I did this all from memory. Mike Ciaraldi seismo!rochester!ciaraldi
john@birtch.UUCP (John Pipkins x257) (11/02/85)
> Salutations! > > Has anyone ever heard of Robotech? > It just recently started playing here in the afternoons, and.... > I'm hooked. > > Some questions I have: > > 1. Is it new No! I've seen the entire series from the centrani (sp) to the invids(sp) and it ended in July or some past time. > 2. Does it come in comic-book form (if so, where can I > get it?) I don't know. But Heavy Metal magazine (I got them all except issue #2, May 1977, because it wasn't available on the west coast) offers a video tape (perhaps more) for 39.95. (Heavy Metal, Dept. 985, 635 Madi- son Ave., New York, NY, 10032). > 3. Does anyone watch it beside me...has anyone HEARD of it > besides me? I have and consider it the best animated series on Los Angeles TV in many years. All the elements I want in that type of series is present. > > I would love to hear from anyone having ANY info on this > animated sf series. Me too. Reply via E-mail or here. > > A lonely Micronian & Centratti fan....(sp may be wrong) > > *susan* John Pipkins ...!trwrb!scgvaxd!felix!birtch!john
cutter@hub (11/07/85)
From: Joe Turner <@CSNET-RELAY.ARPA,@umass-boston.CSNET:cutter@hub>
_Robotech_ is not new. It is a conglomeration of three Japanese animated
SF shows.
"Macross" came out in 1982, and was an instant hit on Japanese television.
It spawned a sequel, "Orguss", around 1983/4; another hit for Tatsunoko
Productions, and another sequel, "Southern Cross". All three shows came to be
known collectively as the "Super Dimension" trilogy, because of the subtitles
for each of the shows ("Super Dimension Fortress Macross", "Super Dimension
Century Orguss", "Super Dimension Cavalry Southern Cross").
At LACon II, Harmony Gold USA premiered a tape for home-video called
"MACROSS", which consisted of an english-language dubbing of the first three
episodes of "Macross". It was well-received, and the tape hit the stores and
sold well. There were rumors of a TV series.
About a year ago, a story made its way along the east-coast Japanese animation
grapevine that Carl Macek (a high-mucky-muck at Harmony Gold and a Japan-
imation fan) had bought the rights to "Mospeada" and "Southern Cross", and was
dubbing them. We all held our breaths, coming straight from the dissapointment
of "Voltron" (now referred to as "Revolt-tron", "Voltrash", etc.). Around
spring of '85, "RoboTech" began to show in California and other locations.
I won't go into a plot synopsis because it's *much* too complicated. For the
moment, I'll say that it has a bit of everything in it, heavy on the hardware
and love-interests. Nasty aliens, lots of "protoculture", and F-14's that
have arms and legs. That's an unfair synopsis, but you probably get the idea.
At 84 episodes, with 40 more on the way and a feature-film coming for Xmas
this year ("RoboTech: The Untold Story", a.k.a. "MegaZone Two-Three"), it'd
take quite a few paragraphs... but for now:
An alien ship crashes on Earth in the year 1990 and is rebuilt by earth's
scientific community. The ship automatically fires at the enemy (known as
Zentradi) and warps itself to the vicinity of Pluto --- all during the
launching ceremonies! The ship has to make its way back to Earth, fighting
Zentradi assaults, and try to stop them from taking over earth. I won't
spoil it any more, but it has an interesting ending... and then there's the
other two shows, of course, with *their* own plots...
The shows are imaginative, and far above most American television (save
for "Twilight Zone" and one or two others). The fact that it's animated
may scare some adults off, which is a shame. The animation quality is
*excellant*, and the voices are incredible. Move over, StarBlazers! Stand
aside, Battle of the Planets! "RoboTech" is here, and it looks like to stay!
Harmony Gold, by the way, is also responsible for "Captain Harlock and the
Queen of 1,000 Years"... this has it's merits, in that it has the same level
of intelligence that "RoboTech" has. However, "Space Pirate Captain Harlock"
had only 45 episodes - not enough for a syndi show; same for "Queen of 1,000
Years" - it had 26 episodes. Together, however, they make 71 - enough to
release it into syndication. They are two different shows, but have been
interweaved plot-wise; sometimes it works, most times it doesn't. Both shows
were done by the same animation house (Toei Animation, who brought us "Star-
Blazers" a.k.a. "Space Cruiser Yamato") and the same character designer, so
it "looks" right... it's not on in some areas, however. It's enjoyable to
watch it for the characters and the plots of the individual shows. Give it a
shot.
If you are interested in more information about these or any other animated
or japanese-animated shows, send mail to:
ringwld!cutter@cca-unix.arpa OR cutter@UMB.csnet
Animatedly,
Joe Turner
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end;rsingle@bbncc-washington (11/08/85)
From: Ron Singleton <rsingle@bbncc-washington.ARPA>
Well, for those who remember my last posting, I have kept my flying
fingers in check for a couple of weeks on this subject:
ROBOTECH (and a few others, about turtles or some such): Definitely
comics, cartoons. As a matter of minor interest I can understand a short
mention on sfl. ****AND THEN A FIRM REFERENCE TO NET.COMICS****!!
Does anyone agree with me that these discussions are not appropriate
for SFL (and personally, boring)? I have already seen that a few folks
believe they belong.
Thanks for your attention. I'll be watching for response(s).
Ron Singletonfung@daemen.UUCP (Kenneth Worzel Fung) (11/13/85)
> Some questions I have: > > 1. Is it new Not really. Robotech was the product of an American company; Harmony Gold; marketing 3 Japanese Animation shows called: Super Dimen- sional Fortess Macross, The Southern Cross, and Genesis Climber Mospeada. All of these shows were produced in 1983-4 by Tasinoko Films. The only link that Harmony Gold binds these stories together, is some- thing called "protoculture". Macross was the only show to mention this, and its definition can be foound in any dictionary/sociology book. > 2. Does it come in comic-book form (if so, where can I > get it?) Yes it does come in Comic Book form. It is put out by a comic company called Comico. There is also the first three episodes out on commercial tape called Macross by Harmony Gold. > 3. Does anyone watch it beside me...has anyone HEARD of it > besides me? If I didn't watch it, how would I know about it. Anyways, I was watching the original (and better at most times) animation a long time before Harmony Gold started to release their version. I'm not knocking Harmony Gold or anything, but they could use a little less narration, an more of the original plotline. If you ever heard of the CF/O or any of the Animation Fanclubs through-out the US and beyond, get in touch with them, there's a bigger fan-following world out there than you can imagine. > > A lonely Micronian & Centratti fan....(sp may be wrong) Oh, It's Zentradi by the way. > -- Kenneth "Worzel" Fung "For the Eternal Space--Mobile Suit Gundam" UUCP : {decvax/dual/rocksanne/watmath/rocksvax} !sunybcs!daemen!fung "...to be destroyed by an Earthling, a mere girl, an American even, would make him the laughing stock of the Universe!"
fung@daemen.UUCP (Kenneth Worzel Fung) (11/14/85)
> has its advantages :-) ), Southern Cross, and Orguss. It has been You mean Mospeada. Super-Dimensional Century Orguss was done by (I think) Nippon Sunrise. The only connection between Orguss and Macross is that Orguss was done by two of the three original artists. Incidentally, Orguss 2, a professional tape done by the original crew, was to premiere sometime this month. > on the shelves; 'Robotech - The Macross Saga', 'Robotech Masters' > and 'Robotech - The New Age (?)'. Actually, the third comic is: Robotech- The New Generation -- Kenneth "Worzel" Fung "For the Eternal Space--Mobile Suit Gundam" UUCP : {decvax/dual/rocksanne/watmath/rocksvax} !sunybcs!daemen!fung "...to be destroyed by an Earthling, a mere girl, an American even, would make him the laughing stock of the Universe!"
ins_atrh@jhunix.UUCP (Thomas Richard Holtz) (11/15/85)
In article <1380@daemen.UUCP> fung@daemen.UUCP (Kenneth Worzel Fung) writes: >> >> A lonely Micronian & Centratti fan....(sp may be wrong) > Oh, It's Zentradi by the way. >> >-- > Kenneth "Worzel" Fung Oh, by the way, its "Worsel", old snake. "Wait, Kodai. Don't fire the Wave-Motion Gun. You might hit Iscandar!"