[mod.rec.guns] Carrying weapons in public.

jkh@jade.UUCP (01/31/87)

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In-Reply-To: Msg of 21 Jan 1987  13:48-EST from firearms-request at cbstr1.att.com


	There is no state in the Union that a Carry permit for
	a concealed weapon is not needed though (See David Kaplan's
	Article - New York Law Review) there is a common law basis
	to carry a concealed weapon. Transport is another issue.

	When I lived on California, I used to tranport my S&W .38
	quite a bit. I was driving a pick-up truck then so locking
	the gun in the truck was out of the question. I didn't
	particularly want to incur the charge of concealed weapons
	nor have the CHP make a mistake. I used to put the gun in 
	an open box on the dashboard of the truck. Same as when I
	used to get pulled over was to put both hands through the
	truck window until all of our signals were clear.

	New Mexico is indeed one of the most Constitutionally
	Conservative States along with Vermont. Still a permit
	is needed to carry a concealed weapon and it is against
	the Law to enter any premise purveying Alcohol (either retail
	wholesale or Bar) with a gun. (In New Mexico, as you might
	imagine, people all have liquor licenses) I beleive the
	penalty is 1 Year for Possession of a Firearm on a Licensed
	Premise. Penalties for using a firearm in the commission of
	a crime are along the lines of Utah and extremely heavy. They
	stick to it as well and thereby keep the Firearm Laws off
	the books. (Hurray, Hurray, Hurray) Needless to say that
	critics are always in the wings with sayings like Jail
	Sentences, no matter how heavy, won't bring my poor little
	Johnnie Back (when in reality, Johnnie probably was breaking
	into someone's house with a submachine gun).

					Dave

jkh@jade.UUCP (02/04/87)

> 	There is no state in the Union that a Carry permit for
> 	a concealed weapon is not needed though (See David Kaplan's
> 	Article - New York Law Review) there is a common law basis
> 	to carry a concealed weapon. Transport is another issue.

Neither Vermont or Wisconsin require a concealed weapon permit to carry
a weapon concealed.  (Though some cities in Wisconsin *do* require a
concealed weapon permit.)

Clayton E. Cramer

jkh@jade.UUCP (02/04/87)

     In Arizona there are many places, including restaurants, where

     people wear guns in holsters on their hips as in the old western

     days. I onced approached one of these gents and asked the purpose

     of his carring a gun and he replied "I am a survivalist"